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    Are they mandating it for those with natural immunity, too?

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    I will gladly retract myself if someone posts evidence that this is false:

    The hater. Yes, "scorned and covered in scars" he remains a living legend.

    hater

    It's Friday, therefore I'll go again...

    hater

    (3) is my lucky # and it's Friday, I don't want to up my weekend...therefore I'll not press my luck and I'll hit hater a third time...

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    If not himself, then he has naught
    To say the words he truly feels
    And not the words of one who kneels


    This man, this hater, this man. He will never kneel.

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    Let's deport every illegal who is a net negative to the country. If you are concerned about hospital capacity we should deport them all. If you are concerned with subsidizing others then just deport the net negatives.

    Also we should end any government program that subsidizes the poor decision making of other American citizens.
    Nathan, the voice of reason and moderation in troubled times.

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    I will gladly retract myself if someone posts evidence that this is false:

    Vaccinated people with breakthrough COVID cases are equally likely to spread it while contagious as unvaccinated people. But vaccinated people are (1) less likely to get COVID*, and (2) contagious for less time**. So overall, it is false to say vaccinated people transmit the virus as much as unvaccinated people.

    It's like saying drinking and driving doesn't matter because a sober driver is just as likely to kill someone in a crash at 90mph as a drunk driver. You're purposefully leaving out important variables to push a dishonest narrative.


    * Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ugh-cases.html
    ** Source https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...a-variant.html

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    I will gladly retract myself if someone posts evidence that this is false:

    this has been known about delta for a while now

    vaccinated people who become breakthrough cases are just as likely to pass covid along as an unvaccinated person who has tested positive

    of course, this excludes that vaccinated people are less likely to become breakthrough cases than an unvaccinated person becoming infected. this is why even vaccinated people are being advised to mask up in public

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    lambert beat me to it

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    Are they mandating it for those with natural immunity, too?
    hope so

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    Ok if you can point me to a do ent that says only breakthrough vaxed cases spread the virus I will.gladly looK at it.

    Also point me to the ratio.difference between unvaxed and vaxed. The R0 to be more specific. Is there a.do ent that shows the R0 is reduced in vaxed.populations?

    That would be a great start. Too bad.THE CDC.THEMSELVES DECIDED NOT.TO TRACK NON HOSPITALIZED COVID VAXED INFECTIONS. THUS THE NUMBERS ARE MISSING THANKS TO CDC

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    Also the meme that is repeated "well we did not design this vaccine to stop infection. Only to reduce hospitalizations".tells me I am correct

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    Let's keep the "you never know" train going. You never know if you're infected, you could be asymptomatic even though you're vaccinated and somehow got infected. You never know. Even if you were tested a minute ago and found negative, you could have gotten it in that one minute. You never know. The results could be wrong. You never know.

    The problem with this strategy is there's no recovery strategy that can include "you never know". You have to know or at least you have to make a decision to act and live (or die) with the outcome.

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    Ok if you can point me to a do ent that says only breakthrough vaxed cases spread the virus I will.gladly looK at it.
    Or you could just shut the up.

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    Or you could just shut the up.
    I could yes. But not yet.

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    Ok if you can point me to a do ent that says only breakthrough vaxed cases spread the virus I will.gladly looK at it.

    Also point me to the ratio.difference between unvaxed and vaxed. The R0 to be more specific. Is there a.do ent that shows the R0 is reduced in vaxed.populations?

    That would be a great start. Too bad.THE CDC.THEMSELVES DECIDED NOT.TO TRACK NON HOSPITALIZED COVID VAXED INFECTIONS. THUS THE NUMBERS ARE MISSING THANKS TO CDC
    The virus didn't come with a user manual or quality certificate so I don't think you'll find what you're looking for given the novelty of the virus.

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    The virus didn't come with a user manual or quality certificate so I don't think you'll find what you're looking for given the novelty of the virus.
    So r u saying what Biden said is halfway BS?

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    So r u saying what Biden said is halfway BS?
    No idea what he said but I'd bet on it.

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    No idea what he said but I'd bet on it.
    "This is an epidemic of unvaccinated"

    "We the vaxed are tired of unvaxed killing ppl"

    "Blah blah time to put the hammer down"

    Very little scientific stuff on that BS imo. Especially being days after your top FDA vaccine decicion makers quit on protest

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    Let's keep the "you never know" train going. You never know if you're infected, you could be asymptomatic even though you're vaccinated and somehow got infected. You never know. Even if you were tested a minute ago and found negative, you could have gotten it in that one minute. You never know. The results could be wrong. You never know.

    The problem with this strategy is there's no recovery strategy that can include "you never know". You have to know or at least you have to make a decision to act and live (or die) with the outcome.
    Wtf is this asshole talking about?

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    more immunity more better

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    "This is an epidemic of unvaccinated"

    "We the vaxed are tired of unvaxed killing ppl"

    "Blah blah time to put the hammer down"
    All correct. Biden's right, hater's wrong.

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    Ok if you can point me to a do ent that says only breakthrough vaxed cases spread the virus I will.gladly looK at it.
    how can a person transmit a disease that they don't have?

    vaccinated people who have covid-19 are by definition breakthrough cases. are you suggesting that people who dont have covid-19 can spread it?

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    All correct. Biden's right, hater's wrong.
    Fake news according to cdc and cnn

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    how can a person transmit a disease that they don't have?

    vaccinated people who have covid-19 are by definition breakthrough cases. are you suggesting that people who dont have covid-19 can spread it?
    doesnt understand asymptomatic transmission

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    Wtf is this asshole talking about?
    If you don't understand it probably wasn't aimed at you.

    If I was talking to you I'd use smaller words.

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    how can a person transmit a disease that they don't have?

    vaccinated people who have covid-19 are by definition breakthrough cases. are you suggesting that people who dont have covid-19 can spread it?
    So you don't know that cases only exist when someone gets tested and it's positive? And that they only get tested because they were either exposed or they have symptoms?

    Surely you're not this daft.

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