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    You just answered your question

    Good metric
    Why is it good? What is the value of understanding the specific number of recovered COVID patients still taking up a hospital bed? Why is that substantially better than lumping them together as COVID patients?

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    COVID-related "death panels"


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    COVID-related "death panels"

    The potted plants are a nice touch tbh.

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    COVID-related "death panels"

    that. Triage the unvaccinated.

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    Fresno County, CA warns it may have to start rationing care


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    Why is it good? What is the value of understanding the specific number of recovered COVID patients still taking up a hospital bed? Why is that substantially better than lumping them together as COVID patients?
    You cannot just lump them together. That would defeat the whole purpose of tracking COVID hospitalizations. (Patients with COVID taking up bed in COVID ward)

    Of course theres value in.tracking Recovered COVID patients and those who have not recovered yet. Lol

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    that. Triage the unvaccinated.
    wouldn't be surprised if that's happening somewhere; unvaxxed on vents aren't doing so well comparatively.

    edit:

    here's Hawaii's rules: https://www.scribd.com/do ent/5246...-Plan-and-FAQs

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    You cannot just lump them together. That would defeat the whole purpose of tracking COVID hospitalizations. (Patients with COVID taking up bed in COVID ward)
    If the purpose of tracking COVID hospitalizations is to determine how many beds are taken as a result of COVID, then whether or not they still have COVID seems to be an irrelevant distinction to that purpose, unless you believe we should vacate those beds once the patient tests negative.

    Of course theres value in.tracking Recovered COVID patients and those who have not recovered yet. Lol
    Then what is that value?

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    The purpose of tracking COVID hospitalizations is to determine how many beds are taken as a result of COVID. Whether or not they still have COVID seems to be an irrelevant distinction to that purpose, unless you believe we should vacate those beds once the patient tests negative.



    Then what is that value?
    Recovery from COVID. See definition from CDC:

    Patients who are symptomatic:

    Resolution of fever without the use of fever-reducing medications andSymptoms (e.g., cough, shortness of breath) have improved, andResults are negative from at least two consecutive respiratory specimens collected ≥24 hours apart (total of two negative specimens) tested using an FDA-authorized laboratory-based NAAT to detect SARS-CoV-2 RNA. See Interim Guidelines for Collecting, Handling, and Testing Clinical Specimens for 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV).


    This simply means the person has beat the virus. Its a success. Of course it has to be tracked.

    If you lump these together w.metric 9f 0pl staying in hospital for other reasons then you are clouding the data.

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    wouldn't be surprised if that's happening somewhere; unvaxxed on vents aren't doing so well comparatively.

    edit:

    here's Hawaii's rules: https://www.scribd.com/do ent/5246...-Plan-and-FAQs
    That has to have been updated in the past year. ty that they don't make stuff like this public de rigueur.

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    Recovery from COVID. See definition from CDC:

    Patients who are symptomatic:

    Resolution of fever without the use of fever-reducing medications andSymptoms (e.g., cough, shortness of breath) have improved, andResults are negative from at least two consecutive respiratory specimens collected ≥24 hours apart (total of two negative specimens) tested using an FDA-authorized laboratory-based NAAT to detect SARS-CoV-2 RNA. See Interim Guidelines for Collecting, Handling, and Testing Clinical Specimens for 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

    This simply means the person has beat the virus. Its a success. Of course it has to be tracked.

    If you lump these together w.metric 9f 0pl staying in hospital for other reasons then you are clouding the data.
    They are tracked. We keep track of deaths and death rate. If they recover, they're not tracked as a death. Why is the specific detail of "recovered but still in the hospital" an important distinction when it comes to tracking recovery?

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    They are tracked. We keep track of deaths and death rate. If they recover, they're not tracked as a death. Why is the specific detail of "recovered but still in the hospital" an important distinction when it comes to tracking recovery?
    Because they recovered from.COVID. very important metric. Great to see which hospitals treat COVID with success.and which dont

    Its ok to disagree

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    Because they recovered from.COVID. very important metric. Great to see which hospitals treat COVID with success.and which dont

    Its ok to disagree
    When patients recover, they are released, and they are no longer hospitalizations. If a patient is no longer infected with COVID but still dies of COVID related complications, that's not a recovery nor a success.

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    lol griping about juiced stats when COVID is causing health care to be rationed and forcing schools to be closed

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    lol griping about juiced stats when COVID is causing health care to be rationed and forcing schools to be closed
    right?

    How juiced could they possibly be at this point?

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    Israel ticking up again. Time to finalize that 4th shot and prepare the 5th. Grim business


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    Israel ticking up again. Time to finalize that 4th shot and prepare the 5th. Grim business

    "Mazel, mazel, good things."

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    follow "the science" to your own grave... "the science" or better yet the television and its talking heads with their fear porn.

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    Israel ticking up again. Time to finalize that 4th shot and prepare the 5th. Grim business

    Deaths are about half what they were during the last wave.

    Thanks for proving vaccines work, hater....again....

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    Deaths are about half what they were during the last wave.

    Thanks for proving vaccines work, hater....again....
    Not that great given the way they treat Covid has probably improved a.lot.

    To think w the.improved.therapies and a very good vax they probably would have less.than a tenth of d deaths.

    Noone vaxed should really be dying. But seems 35% of their dead are fully vaxed

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    Damn, Bexar County's positivity rate was dropping fast for a while, but now the positivity rate only inched down to 7.1% from 7.6% the previous week.

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    Damn, Bexar County's positivity rate was dropping fast for a while, but now the positivity rate only inched down to 7.1% from 7.6% the previous week.

    Still going down tho

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    The good old days when vaccines were perfect.....


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    The good old days when vaccines were perfect.....

    The good old days when people got vaccines without conducting their own “internet research” nor listening to tweeter experts.

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    it's amazing you vaxxed antivax moron

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