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    So you have no objection to kids 12-17 getting the vaccine even though some of them may get myocarditis.
    If they and their parents choose to. Not at all.

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    Says who? You?

    Where’s the vax line, doctor? 5 months? 8 months? Do tell.
    Says d science. Ma salvadorian homei

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    If they and their parents choose to. Not at all.

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    So you never actually had any concerns about myocarditis at all.

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    Says d science. Ma salvadorian homei
    Show where the science says that.

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    Show where the science says that.
    SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination-Associated Myocarditis in Children Ages 12-17: A Stratified National Database Analysis


    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1262866v1.full

    Results A total of 257 CAEs (Cardiac Adverse Events) were identified. Rates per million following dose 2 among males were 162.2 (ages 12-15) and 94.0 (ages 16-17); among females, rates were 13.0 and 13.4 per million, respectively. For boys 12-15 without medical comorbidities receiving their second mRNA vaccination dose, the rate of CAE is 3.7 to 6.1 times higher than their 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization risk as of August 21, 2021 (7-day hospitalizations 1.5/100k population) and 2.6-4.3-fold higher at times of high weekly hospitalization risk (7-day hospitalizations 2.1/100k), such as during January 2021.

    Conclusions Post-vaccination CAE rate was highest in young boys aged 12-15 following dose two. For boys 12-17 without medical comorbidities, the likelihood of post vaccination dose two CAE is 162.2 and 94.0/million respectively. This incidence exceeds their expected 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization rate at both moderate (August 21, 2021 rates) and high COVID-19 hospitalization incidence.

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    SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination-Associated Myocarditis in Children Ages 12-17: A Stratified National Database Analysis


    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1262866v1.full

    Results A total of 257 CAEs (Cardiac Adverse Events) were identified. Rates per million following dose 2 among males were 162.2 (ages 12-15) and 94.0 (ages 16-17); among females, rates were 13.0 and 13.4 per million, respectively. For boys 12-15 without medical comorbidities receiving their second mRNA vaccination dose, the rate of CAE is 3.7 to 6.1 times higher than their 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization risk as of August 21, 2021 (7-day hospitalizations 1.5/100k population) and 2.6-4.3-fold higher at times of high weekly hospitalization risk (7-day hospitalizations 2.1/100k), such as during January 2021.

    Conclusions Post-vaccination CAE rate was highest in young boys aged 12-15 following dose two. For boys 12-17 without medical comorbidities, the likelihood of post vaccination dose two CAE is 162.2 and 94.0/million respectively. This incidence exceeds their expected 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization rate at both moderate (August 21, 2021 rates) and high COVID-19 hospitalization incidence.
    Why did you cut it off there?

    Also, lol VAERS.

    Also, lol that wasn't the question I asked hater.
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    So you never actually had any concerns about myocarditis at all.
    I do. But my body ma choice ma negro

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    Freedom fighters

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    Not enough to even have an opinion anyone shouldn't take the vaccine.

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    Not enough to even have an opinion anyone shouldn't take the vaccine.
    Anyone who wants it should. Anyone who doesnt want it. Shouldnt

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    Anyone who wants it should. Anyone who doesnt want it. Shouldnt

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    Right, you can't even think or argue anyone shouldn't from a medical standpoint RE: myocarditis.

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    Right, you can't even think or argue anyone shouldn't from a medical standpoint.
    I aint a doctor nor I play one on the internet.

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    I aint a doctor nor I play one on the internet.

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    So you brought up myocarditis for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

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    So you brought up myocarditis for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
    Facts are facts. Risks are risks. Everyone will make their own choice in life.

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    Facts are facts. Risks are risks.
    Fact is you don't think there is enough risk of myocarditis to discourage even one person from getting the vaccine.

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    Fact is you don't think there is enough risk of myocarditis to discourage even one person from getting the vaccine.
    Not enough data toeither discourage or force peeps to take the boosters ma nig.

    Free world

    ma body ma choice

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    Not enough data toeither discourage or force peeps to take the boosters ma nig.
    Yeah, I told you that days ago.

    Good idea for you to try to change the subject, but not to that.

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    Yeah, I told you that days ago.

    Good idea for you to try to change the subject, but not to that.
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    Roses are red violets are violet. Ma body ma choice. Freedom
    hater folds

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    Israel and Pfizer, Tinkernugget
    Show where the science says that.
    You gotheem again ChumpDumper!

    Hater has the reading comprehension of a MAGA that is #stillwithhim.

    Trump truly loves the poorly educated.

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    Says d science. Ma salvadorian homei
    Show where the science says that.

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    SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination-Associated Myocarditis in Children Ages 12-17: A Stratified National Database Analysis


    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1262866v1.full

    Results A total of 257 CAEs (Cardiac Adverse Events) were identified. Rates per million following dose 2 among males were 162.2 (ages 12-15) and 94.0 (ages 16-17); among females, rates were 13.0 and 13.4 per million, respectively. For boys 12-15 without medical comorbidities receiving their second mRNA vaccination dose, the rate of CAE is 3.7 to 6.1 times higher than their 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization risk as of August 21, 2021 (7-day hospitalizations 1.5/100k population) and 2.6-4.3-fold higher at times of high weekly hospitalization risk (7-day hospitalizations 2.1/100k), such as during January 2021.

    Conclusions Post-vaccination CAE rate was highest in young boys aged 12-15 following dose two. For boys 12-17 without medical comorbidities, the likelihood of post vaccination dose two CAE is 162.2 and 94.0/million respectively. This incidence exceeds their expected 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization rate at both moderate (August 21, 2021 rates) and high COVID-19 hospitalization incidence.
    Why did you leave this out?

    Further research into the severity and long-term sequelae of post-vaccination CAE is warranted.

    And, again, unless you're terrible at math, 162.2 per million (worst case) is 0.0162% incidence rate... which is exactly what statistically insignificant means.

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    Plus, I already stated I'm ok if they don't want to do boosters on kids... I get it. That doesn't mean adults shouldn't.

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    And, again, unless you're terrible at math, 162.2 per million (worst case) is 0.0162% incidence rate... which is exactly what statistically insignificant means.
    Is 0.0027% statistically significant?

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