'Patients are lined up outside on ambulance gurneys' in California towns that can't stop COVID spread
There are areas in California that continues to be overwhelmed by COVID-19,
even as the state as a whole continues to see some of the lowest case rates in the United States.
Once you're inside the hospital, the hallways are filled with patients on gurneys.
an ER nurse described it as being like the line at Disneyland with people stretched outside and around the corner, waiting to sign into the check-in desk.
"I'm exhausted and just disappointed that we're here,"
there are still people who refuse to believe they have COVID-19 or even that it's real, even after they are on ventilators.
The overwhelming majority of patients dying are unvaccinated or immunocompromised,
in mid-September that Fresno hospitals revealed that they'd have to start rationing care.
"The largest hospital systems that we have here in the county are telling us that they are over 100% of their normal capacity, and
some of them are as high as 140%,
which is really pushing the surge standards and really almost
tipping us into what we call the 'crisis standards of care,'"
"The San Joaquin Valley has California's worst per capita rate of COVID-19 hospitalizations, with 38 COVID-19 hospitalizations for every 100,000 residents,
https://www.rawstory.com/california-...lley-disasters
Rural America is really ed up, something deeply toxic about rural culture.
They keep voting Repug and Repugs keep not helping them and screwing them, for decades.
Makes perfect sense...they've got over 2.1 million active cases in there. And that Newsom fellow has locked down the firstest and the longest. And he still got lambasted with it.
- "A piece of gauze proved worthless."
- A hundred years ago.
And a hundred years later.
United CEO Sure Seems Cheerful Saying
‘I Feel Bad For’ Firing 593 Workers Who Refused Vaccine
https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-...fused-vaccine/
Just wait till the under 12 year olds gain eligibility for the vaccines. There's over 50 million of the little s in here coupled with the 75 million adults who ain't shot and the 30 million illegals in here who aren't shot. That's still over a 150 million people in this country who ain't vaxxed.
Oh, the weather outside is frightful, inside it it so delightful.
Sure you can. You just dont assume whats convenient for you. For example you dont assume vaxed spread less covid than non. Thats not science.You can't follow the science if the science doesn't know.
Thus following the science would be not assuming either way until science proves one.
Math is science. If you can prove something mathematically, you are following the science.When that happens, which is pretty normal (ie: Einstein's theory of relativity is also not all proven and still a theory, and it doesn't mean we ignore it outright) we use risk analysis instead, which have nothing to do with a coin toss.
There's really two possible outcomes here:
1) a person with natural immunity and vaccine is more likely to reduce infection and transmission, saving lives.
2) a person with natural immunity and vaccine is no more likely to reduce infection and transmission than a person with natural immunity and no vaccine, saving no additional lives.
One option has a potential to save lives, and in the worst absolute case, it'll match the second option. Thus, it's a no brainer.
Your last sentence is absolutely not following the science.
Follow the science
You don't assume anything. An informed decision might also not necessarily be convenient for you, but it can definitely be the right choice given the information at hand.
Already established there's no science to follow since there are no answers from science at this time.Math is science. If you can prove something mathematically, you are following the science.
Your last sentence is absolutely not following the science.
Follow the science
That decision is entirely on risk/reward, next best thing since science at the moment is off the table.
Last edited by ElNono; 09-29-2021 at 01:17 PM.
It could also be the wrong choice. Thus not a scientific decision.
I have no problem ppl vacing themselves to death.but when you issue mandates, you better be following the science. Right now they are not.Already established there's no science to follow since there are no answers from science at this time.
That decision is entirely on risk/reward, next best thing since science at the moment is off the table.
Follow the science
hater: follow the science
also hater: there is no science so do anything at all without thinking
Illinois Man Turns Down Treatment After Bat Bite,
Dies a Month Later From Rabies
The man woke up to a bat nipping at his neck, and a colony was later discovered in his home.
https://gizmodo.com/illinois-man-tur...ies-1847767191
Saw it on CNN this morning. I don't understand the refusal of the treatment.
YouTube has, or, used to have some harrowing videos of people in the last throes of life with rabies.
The treatment is not like it was years ago with the needles thru the stomachs, but still...you're never quite the same, like a rattlesnake bite survival. You're a bit off the kilter ever more.
They published a great book a decade or so ago "Rabies"...I had a copy, a first edition, but sold it on eBay when I needed the funds. It was fabulous.
antivax Trump can't understand why a Trump from Waukegan was antivax
That's an easy one...
Trump President.
Not Clinton.
That's a horrible death, too.
...hey, Doc? Your mother's waitin'.
You can't say "follow the science" and "science doesn't have an answer yet" in the same sentence. That's an oxymoron.It could also be the wrong choice. Thus not a scientific decision.
I have no problem ppl vacing themselves to death.but when you issue mandates, you better be following the science. Right now they are not.
Follow the science
Can't follow the science on this one yet. Simply pick for the best outcome of the possibilities at hand.
Sure you can. For example the existence of aliens. Cannot be scientifically proven yet (talking about intelligent life). You a scientist who follows the science would say "we just dont know.either.way yet. So we cannot rule out or vice versa"
Follow the science
Sure.you can. Sayijg something is undecided is absolutely following scientific reasoning thus.following the science.Can't follow the science on this one yet. Simply pick for the best outcome of the possibilities at hand.
Follow the science
No you can't. The science doesn't know, so there's nothing to "follow". That's not a yes or a no. This really isn't that complicated, tbh.
lol no, something being undecided is certainly a valid position in science, but that's exactly the position where you can't "follow", since there's nothing to follow.
You can either wait it out or if you cannot, you make an educated decision. This happens all the time in real life, tbh. Climate change is one such example. There's a few examples of this pandemic as well.
You follow scientific process which means dont assume anything. Thats follow the science dont assume.anything without scientific proof.
Follow the science
... and scene.
Called it.
NETWORK OF RIGHT-WING HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS IS
MAKING MILLIONS OFF HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND IVERMECTIN, HACKED DATA REVEALS
The data also reveals that 72,000 people paid at least $6.7 million
for Covid-19 consultations promoted by America’s Frontline Doctors and vaccine conspiracist Simone Gold.
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/28/covid-telehealth-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-hacked
Well said. We can agree on that much at least.
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