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    Are you vaccinated?

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    FYI, Mengele died in 1979...
    Yep, Olivier sicked like 3 doberman's owned by one of the Hitler's clone on him in Pennsylvania.

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    CP got to handle of them first class tickets to the Resurrection.

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    Will Hunting does Fergie have any last words for Colin Powell?
    No at least in my opinion. He made one gaffe as Secretary of State but that was due to pressure from others in the Bush Administration. I don’t have any issues with the guy.

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    because when it comes to acquiring natural immunity, there is a risk there. catching covid. which even if it doesnt kill you, a) can have lasting effects, to which we dont even understand the full extent, and b) can cause you to spread it to theres, compromising them the exact same way

    as opposed to the relative risk of getting vaccinated, which outside of some specific subsets of people, is negligible

    its like telling people to go catch polio so that if they get better they will have a strong natural immunity to it going forward.
    That's a different issue (not surprising coming from you). If a naturally immune person who survived COVID has higher protection than a vaccinated person, why should the naturally immune person also get vaccinated? I'm not saying it wouldn't be a boost, but why would anyone worry about that segment when they are group with the highest protection level? Assuming they are, of course.

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    "The unvaccinated should be more afraid of the vaccinated actually"

    Actually, the unvaccinated should be most afraid of their own unvaccinated vulnerability.

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    Let's ask CC if he regrets getting vaccinated.

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    That's a different issue (not surprising coming from you). If a naturally immune person who survived COVID has higher protection than a vaccinated person, why should the naturally immune person also get vaccinated? I'm not saying it wouldn't be a boost, but why would anyone worry about that segment when they are group with the highest protection level? Assuming they are, of course.
    because they are also the group that have available to them a safe means of having even more protection.

    i think the goal should be to have everybody as protected as possible within reasonable means

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    because they are also the group that have available to them a safe means of having even more protection.

    i think the goal should be to have everybody as protected as possible within reasonable means
    Those last 3 words are the fuel for all debates. Though it is reasonable for someone with more protection than a fully vaxxed person to also get vaxxed, why should it be required?

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    Those last 3 words are the fuel for all debates. Though it is reasonable for someone with more protection than a fully vaxxed person to also get vaxxed, why should it be required?
    ok. give me a good argument for why getting the vaccine not within reason? what burden does it place on the person?

    its about as interesting as the climate change "debate"

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    Those last 3 words are the fuel for all debates. Though it is reasonable for someone with more protection than a fully vaxxed person to also get vaxxed, why should it be required?
    ok. give me a good argument for why getting the vaccine not within reason? what burden does it place on the person?

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    Why is everyone still pretending there is a vaccine requirement for everyone?

    Who here is subject to a COVID vaccine mandate?

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    Let's assume two people get vaccinated, one gets Moderna and the other gets J&J. They don't have the same level of protection but they are vaccinated (fully). Should the J&J person have held out for Moderna? Would the difference in protection be greater for that person than the naturally immune person who is contemplating a vaccination?

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    you didnt provide any argument for why getting the vaccine is not within reason, or what burden it places on the person.

    you said this is the fuel for the debate, yet you cant even steelman the argument. doesnt seem like much of a debate tbh

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    Why would Joe Rogan need "even greater" immunity??? His natural immunity is very good enough so he doesnt need anymore "greater immunity"
    There's no way to measure "natural immunity" other than you get the virus, risk dying off it, and then find out.

    Or you get a very safe vaccine and substantially reduce that risk of dying or being hospitalized by the virus and still find out.

    This is really a non-argument.

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    Meh

    Pandemic is over.

    Ive moved on

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    There's no way to measure "natural immunity" other than you get the virus, risk dying off it, and then find out.

    Or you get a very safe vaccine and substantially reduce that risk of dying or being hospitalized by the virus and still find out.

    This is really a non-argument.
    Less than 1% is really not a risk to many tbqh.

    Its probably riskier to own a motorcycle or do rock climbing or sky diving tbqh

    Some ppl might prefer the natural immunity to get the benefit of better.protection

    Follow da science thang dawg

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    Less than 1% is really not a risk to many tbqh.

    Its probably riskier to own a motorcycle or do rock climbing or sky diving tbqh

    Some ppl might prefer the natural immunity to get the benefit of better.protection

    Follow da science thang dawg
    Hater following science.

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    hater would kill 3,000,000 Americans if he was president. One sick er. Worse than shilliry.
    Fake news


    Old and sick need vax to fight this


    Young. Not as much

    Follow da science thang dawg

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    And thats possibly 30,000,000 more Americans with lower quality of life. Sick .
    Fake news from upset nancy

    Follow da science

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    That's what you already agreed to.
    Apology accepted

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    Meh

    Pandemic is over.

    Ive moved on
    COVID hasn't

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    you didnt provide any argument for why getting the vaccine is not within reason, or what burden it places on the person.

    you said this is the fuel for the debate, yet you cant even steelman the argument. doesnt seem like much of a debate tbh
    I said it was reasonable. Why would I provide an argument that it's not? Can you not read?

    While it's not unreasonable for a COVID survivor to get vaccinated, it's unreasonable to expect them to if they have better protection already than you have as a vaccinated person who hasn't have COVID.

    You have a very serious reading comprehension problem. Those last three words are the fuel for all debates, not just this one. Everyone should do Y as long as Y is within reason. Everyone should do what's within reason then? Not really. Just because it's reasonable to get it doesn't mean they should get it.

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