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    Trump changed Darrin from a namby-pamby Republican into a dimbulb COVID truther.

    You love to see it.

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    Trump changed Darrin from a namby-pamby Republican into a dimbulb COVID truther.

    You love to see it.
    What is a covid truther?

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    https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/...985-015-0422-1

    And on this you can blame Obama, 2015
    So go ahead and blaze a new path for the red team.

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    https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/...985-015-0422-1

    And on this you can blame Obama, 2015
    So go ahead and blaze a new path for the red team.

    From 2015

    Where's the link I asked for?

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    They did.
    One of the labs in Wuhan was studying Coronaviruses in bats BEFORE any Covid viruses that infect people were found. They found them in the wild and were comparing them. They did not keep a bat colony in the lab.
    Can you read?
    You dont keep a bat colony in the lab.
    You go out and get samples, bring them back, GROW them in the lab.

    In order to study the virus we grow them in the lab inside of cells we know how to culture.
    Did you think LABS kept enormous colonies of animals to harvest viruses from or what?
    This was done on a number of different viruses in this general family and is standard practice for almost all the viruses we study.
    We "raise" viruses IN CELL CULTURES IN A LAB.

    This is getting comical.

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    What is a covid truther?
    You are. You cast scorn on any suggestion that COVID was zoonotic or that is wasn't intentionally unleased on the world by the sinister Chinese.

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    You're about to lie about not being one, but your subsequent posts will reveal you.

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    Can you read?
    You dont keep a bat colony in the lab.
    You go out and get samples, bring them back, GROW them in the lab.

    In order to study the virus we grow them in the lab inside of cells we know how to culture.
    Did you think LABS kept enormous colonies of animals to harvest viruses from or what?
    This was done on a number of different viruses in this general family and is standard practice for almost all the viruses we study.
    We "raise" viruses IN CELL CULTURES IN A LAB.

    This is getting comical.
    You said they tested Wuhan lab animals (in the covid-19 era).

    Link?

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    You are. You cast scorn on any suggestion that COVID was zoonotic or that is wasn't intentionally unleased on the world by the sinister Chinese.

    Wut?

    Lab leaks can be, and mostly are, accidental.

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    But bats and other organisms have been found with CORONAVIRUSES that are closely related to the original virus that was found that caused problems IN HUMANS. This is how WE GO ABOUT FINDING ORIGINS. Dont expect to find the exact same RNA sequence.
    Why do people continue to give half truths and utter BS? The Delta virus that now causes the majority of cases is not like the first or the second strains, they have differences, but show a large amount of relatedness. This what we would expect from mutations and evolution.
    In here?
    Where did I type this?

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    You said they tested Wuhan lab animals (in the covid-19 era).

    Link?
    so link where I said this?

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    Over 80,000 animals – from 209 species – were tested, including wild, domesticated and market animals. “As the WHO investigation reported, not a single animal infected with SARS-CoV-2 was found.

    They should've tested animals from the lab.

    They did.
    One of the labs in Wuhan was studying Coronaviruses in bats BEFORE any Covid viruses that infect people were found. They found them in the wild and were comparing them. They did not keep a bat colony in the lab.



    so link where I said this?


    I was obviously referring to our current pandemic and not 2015.

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    Is this why people accuse Darrin of being drunk when he posts?
    Honest mistake is fine, but has he admitted to drinking and screwing up or what?

    Edit:

    Aha!
    They can bring bats back and take samples from various body parts but they usually just take samples from the wild.
    But they do not raise animals in the lab for virus. They grow the virus in cell culture.
    Which is why I stated they do not bring colonies of bats to the lab.

    I feel better now.

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    Is this why people accuse Darrin of being drunk when he posts?
    Honest mistake is fine, but has he admitted to drinking and screwing up or what?
    He is using alternate comprehension.

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    Is this why people accuse Darrin of being drunk when he posts?
    Honest mistake is fine, but has he admitted to drinking and screwing up or what?
    No. You ed up.

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    Wut?

    Lab leaks can be, and mostly are, accidental.
    your track record of being truthful about yourself isn't the greatest, tbh

    I guess we'll see if your COVID trutherism is limited to lab-leak motivated reasoning.

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    When you up, just go full ad hominem.

    Two examples above

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    I was obviously referring to our current pandemic and not 2015.
    Our current pandemic is a VARIANT of the original strain found in Wuhan.
    The whole reason we are interested in Wuhan and other chinese research is that they have ALREADY traced some nasty viruses back to animal vectors and then to some markets. MERS, SARS This goes back a lot further than even 2015. We do a lot of research in SE Asia as well as this appears where most of our flus eminate from and thus we can get out ahead and make a vaccine that might be effective.

    So I am not sure what you are after?

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    Is this why people accuse Darrin of being drunk when he posts?
    Honest mistake is fine, but has he admitted to drinking and screwing up or what?

    Edit:

    Aha!
    They can bring bats back and take samples from various body parts but they usually just take samples from the wild.
    But they do not raise animals in the lab for virus. They grow the virus in cell culture.
    Which is why I stated they do not bring colonies of bats to the lab.

    I feel better now.
    I see where the miscommunication resulted.
    But I still have no clue what you want now.

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    Our current pandemic is a VARIANT of the original strain found in Wuhan.
    The whole reason we are interested in Wuhan and other chinese research is that they have ALREADY traced some nasty viruses back to animal vectors and then to some markets. MERS, SARS This goes back a lot further than even 2015. We do a lot of research in SE Asia as well as this appears where most of our flus eminate from and thus we can get out ahead and make a vaccine that might be effective.

    So I am not sure what you are after?

    Did the WHO test any animals at the Wuhan lab in the covid-19 era? Your previous post suggests they did. If so, do you have a link?

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    I see where the miscommunication resulted.
    But I still have no clue what you want now.
    Did the WHO test any animals at the Wuhan lab in the covid-19 era? Your previous post suggests they did. If so, do you have a link?

    Is it clear now?

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    Did the WHO test any animals at the Wuhan lab in the covid-19 era? Your previous post suggests they did. If so, do you have a link?
    The Wuhan Lab DID NOT and DOES NOT raise lab animals FOR testing. AGAIN.

    There is interest in the Wuhan market as animals in the wild have a similar virus and as shown in the paper you already read... and the wild animals might transmit virus to the market animals.

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    Is it clear now?
    Absolutely not.
    Its not clear at all.

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    The Wuhan Lab DID NOT and DOES NOT raise lab animals FOR testing. AGAIN.

    There is interest in the Wuhan market as animals in the wild have a similar virus and as shown in the paper you already read... and the wild animals might transmit virus to the market animals.

    Are there "humanized mice" in the wild? Asking for a friend.

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    Are there "humanized mice" in the wild? Asking for a friend.
    Yes Darrin.
    You.
    Tell your friend.

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