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    FDA.GOV: While it is hoped this will be the case, the scientific community does not yet know if the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine will reduce such transmission.
    https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...sked-questions



    now you're arguing with Cuck Ross's article and the study it was citing to

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    now you're arguing with Cuck Ross's article and the study it was citing to
    Yup.

    Your turn.

    Which do you value more? FDA website or Cuck Ross article?

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    Yup.

    Your turn.

    Which do you value more? FDA website or Cuck Ross article?
    given that your link doesnt work, do you know when that particular bit was written?

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    given that your link doesnt work, do you know when that particular bit was written?
    https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...sked-questions

    I'm pretty sure those pages are constantly updated. so its latest info.

    cheers

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    FDA.GOV: While it is hoped this will be the case, the scientific community does not yet know if the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine will reduce such transmission.
    https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...sked-questions

    Go to the link and what do you see?

    Typical hater result: “Page Not Found”

    Apologies accepted!

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    https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...sked-questions

    I'm pretty sure those pages are constantly updated. so its latest info.

    cheers
    And what do you see?

    On December 11, 2020, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued the first emergency use authorization (EUA) for Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of age and older.

    On August 23, 2021, the FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and is now marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 in individuals 16 years of age and older.



    Apologies accepted!

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    Mistaking prevention of transmission with prevention of disease

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    Mistaking prevention of transmission with prevention of disease

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    How about the CDC.

    Vaccination protects against Covid-19 more strongly than previous infection does, CDC study finds.

    Vaccination protects people against coronavirus infection much better than previous infection does, a team of researchers led by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Friday.

    Apologies accepted.

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    How about the CDC.

    Vaccination protects against Covid-19 more strongly than previous infection does, CDC study finds.

    Vaccination protects people against coronavirus infection much better than previous infection does, a team of researchers led by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Friday.

    Apologies accepted.
    Dummy above

    Mistaking prevention of transmission with prevention of disease

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    You hate to see it

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    from the paper the article cites to:

    Interpretation

    Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts. Host–virus interactions early in infection may shape the entire viral trajectory.

    so i was wrong about peak viral load for breakthrough cases when it comes to delta (the paper confirms that it reduced peak viral load for the alpha strain). but i was correct that:

    1) vaccinated individuals dont spread it for nearly as long, since their viral clearance is accelerated
    2) being vaccinated reduces the risk of infection to begin with

    the paper also demonstrated that vaccinated household members were less likely to catch covid than unvaccinated household members

    so again, yes, it has the net effect of reducing transmissions .

    should follow the science.
    lol, were you expecting them to read the paper? lmao

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    i said it protects the vaccinated and people around them and you responded in disagreement

    you were wrong, as usual.
    Lets roll the tape:

    You specifically said you argued my statement "the vaccine does not prevent spread"

    You were wrong as something reducing something else does not = something preventing it

    Follow the science
    hater folds

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    Dummy above

    Mistaking prevention of transmission with prevention of disease
    what's the difference? what do you think transmission of a disease means?

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    what's the difference? what do you think transmission of a disease means?
    for the 3rd time. From FDA:

    Most vaccines that protect from viral illnesses also reduce transmission of the virus that causes the disease by those who are vaccinated. While it is hoped this will be the case, the scientific community does not yet know if the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine will reduce such transmission.


    One thing is preventing the disease. Which is what this vax does.

    The 2nd is preventing transmission. Which FDA says: "scientific community does not know.yet"


    Smh its not rocket science. A child can understand this

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    what silly semantics, preventing transmission does prevent disease

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    You hate to see it
    But you expect to see it anyhow

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    what silly semantics, preventing transmission does prevent disease
    says "silly semantics" then follows with silly semantics

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    for the 3rd time. From FDA:

    Most vaccines that protect from viral illnesses also reduce transmission of the virus that causes the disease by those who are vaccinated. While it is hoped this will be the case, the scientific community does not yet know if the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine will reduce such transmission.


    One thing is preventing the disease. Which is what this vax does.

    The 2nd is preventing transmission. Which FDA says: "scientific community does not know.yet"


    Smh its not rocket science. A child can understand this
    im just asking you what the difference is between preventing disease and preventing transmission of the disease?

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    im just asking you what the difference is between preventing disease and preventing transmission of the disease?

    Phio again with the goal post move "nuh uh, not me, I wasn't even talking about that so I wasn't wrong.. that was someone else... I just wanted to bandwagon again"

    Grow a pair, Philo, good lord.

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    people not understanding how "prevents" and "slows" are two different things.

    "I prevented Lebron from scoring!"

    Lebron finished with 56 points.

    "OK so? Just not 100% of the time"

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    people not understanding how "prevents" and "slows" are two different things.

    "I prevented Lebron from scoring!"

    Lebron finished with 56 points.

    "OK so? Just not 100% of the time"
    i said the vaccine offers protection. hater is the one who moved the goalpost to "IT DOESNT PREVENT"

    this is why we dont need Poster B jumping in mid-conversation

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    im just asking you what the difference is between preventing disease and preventing transmission of the disease?
    Seriously?

    Preventing disease: im vaxed I get infected with Covid. But the immune protection by the vaccines prevents me from getting very sick (the disease)

    Not preventing transmission: i am vaxed and infected with covid. With very mild symptoms. But I can still spread the virus to both vaxed and non vaxed.

    Smdh

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    people not understanding how "prevents" and "slows" are two different things.

    "I prevented Lebron from scoring!"

    Lebron finished with 56 points.

    "OK so? Just not 100% of the time"
    Yeah thats another thing. Its pretty clear but nigas here say im playing "word games"

    Its not a ing game. Different words have different meanings

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