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    Lol you're a moron.
    Lmao a SnakeBoy pretending he knows what's going on

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    Lol you're a moron.
    Lmao a SnakeBoy pretending he knows what's going on
    Its a mystery.

    Hope you crack the case.

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    Its a mystery.

    Hope you crack the case.
    Lol you're a moron.
    Lmao a Darrins pretending he knows what's going on

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    Lol you're a moron.
    Lmao a Darrins pretending he knows what's going on

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    China using zero covid policy. So yes this is an outbreak for them, Nancypants.

    And no Im not worried. Unlike you I dont double mask at the drive thru
    Your not worried for humanity and saving lives...
    Yet you are.
    Such a back and forth hypocrite.
    By far the worst on this board.

    And YOU were all about masking along with your fear of needles, you wrapped yourself in masks like a mummy for Halloween ya Bolivian re .

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    Your not worried for humanity and saving lives...
    Yet you are.
    Such a back and forth hypocrite.
    By far the worst on this board.

    And YOU were all about masking along with your fear of needles, you wrapped yourself in masks like a mummy for Halloween ya Bolivian re .
    Urine garden with another pool of urine spewed

    Didnt read

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    Further evidence that masks and lockdowns work and are highly effective
    What kind of mask are you wearing these days?

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    Urine garden with another pool of urine spewed

    Didnt read
    Sure you read it.
    Its the same stuff as always.
    Fake humanitarian.

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    What kind of mask are you wearing these days?
    ElNono:



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    Sure you read it.
    Its the same stuff as always.
    Fake humanitarian.
    Didnt read this either Urine.

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    What kind of mask are you wearing these days?
    Air queen
    Think its South Korean.

    What do you wear on airplanes?

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    Sure you read it.
    Its the same stuff as always.
    Fake humanitarian.
    Didnt read this either Urine.

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    Didnt read this either Urine.
    Yes you did.
    Put me on ignore you big Bolivian baby fat if you really dont want to read it.

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    Its a mystery.

    Hope you crack the case.
    it's no mystery, it's right there. But lol you pretending too.

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    What does it say about the vaccine?
    Well, how many were hospitalized and died? We're missing that info.

    The vaccine won't completely prevent infection, but it will drastically reduce how long you're infected, your odds of landing in the hospital or dying.

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    Pfizer CEO wants to lock up anyone talking about his products



    Whoa you shared a tweet with more than two likes... Did someone hack your account??

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    Well, how many were hospitalized and died? We're missing that info.

    The vaccine won't completely prevent infection, but it will drastically reduce how long you're infected, your odds of landing in the hospital or dying.
    If everyone gets the virus, the vaccine had a 100% breakthrough with that group. There's nothing to say they would have died either way.

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    If everyone gets the virus, the vaccine had a 100% breakthrough with that group. There's nothing to say they would have died either way.
    The vaccine trains your body to attack the infection effectively when the virus is already in your body. That implies it won't prevent infection, it will help you defend against it. Most vaccines work that way.

    The fact they do help you eliminate it quicker is what reduces R0 from > 1 to, eventually and hopefully, < 1.

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    The vaccine trains your body to attack the infection effectively when the virus is already in your body. That implies it won't prevent infection, it will help you defend against it. Most vaccines work that way.

    The fact they do help you eliminate it quicker is what reduces R0 from > 1 to, eventually and hopefully, < 1.
    "However, data show fully vaccinated persons are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2, and infections with the Delta variant in fully vaccinated persons are associated with less severe clinical outcomes. Infections with the Delta variant in vaccinated persons potentially have reduced transmissibility than infections in unvaccinated persons, although additional studies are needed." -CDC

    "Less likely" must mean there are fewer instances where vaccinated people tested positive after exposure vs unvaccinated people. Are you saying that these vaccinated people were just as "infected" but tested negative?

    If so, does the vaccine create more asymptomatic carriers?

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    "However, data show fully vaccinated persons are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2, and infections with the Delta variant in fully vaccinated persons are associated with less severe clinical outcomes. Infections with the Delta variant in vaccinated persons potentially have reduced transmissibility than infections in unvaccinated persons, although additional studies are needed." -CDC

    "Less likely" must mean there are fewer instances where vaccinated people tested positive after exposure vs unvaccinated people. Are you saying that these vaccinated people were just as "infected" but tested negative?

    If so, does the vaccine create more asymptomatic carriers?
    We know there's an asymptomatic incubation period for the virus that takes almost a week. The viral load during that period goes from very low to very high.

    I don't know for sure, but I suspect that in the case of vaccinated people your immune system knows (thanks to the vaccine) that this is a bad actor and fights it right away, whereas the immune system on unvaccinated people might not kick in until the viral load is high.

    I also don't know how precise PCR tests and the like are in detecting small viral loads. When we actually end up detecting an infection (which officially means you 'acquired' COVID), might not be when the infection actually started.

    As far as the vaccine, at least in the Pfizer and Moderna cases, there's no actual virus in them, so you couldn't detect the virus due to vaccination.

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    We know there's an asymptomatic incubation period for the virus that takes almost a week. The viral load during that period goes from very low to very high.

    I don't know for sure, but I suspect that in the case of vaccinated people your immune system knows (thanks to the vaccine) that this is a bad actor and fights it right away, whereas the immune system on unvaccinated people might not kick in until the viral load is high.

    I also don't know how precise PCR tests and the like are in detecting small viral loads. When we actually end up detecting an infection (which officially means you 'acquired' COVID), might not be when the infection actually started.

    As far as the vaccine, at least in the Pfizer and Moderna cases, there's no actual virus in them, so you couldn't detect the virus due to vaccination.
    You seem to not know a lot ma nig

    Maybe best answer to vaccines effectiveness with transmission is "we just dont know"

    Cheers

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    Fat people can't catch a break


    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34744161/

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    "However, data show fully vaccinated persons are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2, and infections with the Delta variant in fully vaccinated persons are associated with less severe clinical outcomes. Infections with the Delta variant in vaccinated persons potentially have reduced transmissibility than infections in unvaccinated persons, although additional studies are needed." -CDC

    "Less likely" must mean there are fewer instances where vaccinated people tested positive after exposure vs unvaccinated people. Are you saying that these vaccinated people were just as "infected" but tested negative?

    If so, does the vaccine create more asymptomatic carriers?
    Do you really not understand how vaccines work?

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    If everyone gets the virus, the vaccine had a 100% breakthrough with that group. There's nothing to say they would have died either way.
    You have no clue how vaccines are suppose to work.

    We have been at this for over 1000 pages and time and time again this has been explained and you still dont get it.
    Go back and talk about clips for semiautomatic rifles, it makes much more sense.

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