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    Law of diminishing virulence
    It's not a law. Smallpox never got less deadly.

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    The jab after a few months struggles versus Original Strain

    Do you think it has any shot in vs Omicrap?

    The hope and signs are Omicrap is milder thus starting an end to the pandemic

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    It'll be everywhere soon.

    Uncontrolled community transmission, bad data collection and indifference to mass disease and death are US hallmarks.
    If its mild 2 we need it to overtake all other strains. And pandemic to end.

    Let it all burn through if we see all mild symptoms

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    There will be a war in Eastern Europe in 12 months or less.

    Cheers

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    The hope and signs are Omicrap is milder thus starting an end to the pandemic

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    "A research program may considered successful if no more that 49.9% of the data must be discarded to save the hypothesis."


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    My wife’s Dr. wants to test her for antibodies before getting the 3rd dose. Seems reasonable to me. I’m not convinced the first two jabs are ineffective yet. Plus, it may do nothing for Omicron.
    Testing for antibodies after vaccination isn't recommended by the CDC because there is no correlate of protection for antibody levels. My wife only did that for immunosuppressed pts prior to the boosters being approved. That way she could justify writing a prescription for an additional dose. Now that isn't an issue.

    2 doses of any of the vaccines is providing greater than 90% protection against severe illness and death. Which is about as good as it gets with vaccines. They never were going to prevent infections. The vaccines should continue to provide pretty good protection against any variant as long as the body can recognize the e protein. The virus can't escape memory t cell response on a population level and it is t cells that actually clear the virus.

    There hasn't been any reason not to get a 3rd dose though. It's not like those doses are going to get sent to Africa if people don't take them. They'll just throw them in the trash when they expire.

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    Law of diminishing virulence
    If its mild 2 we need it to overtake all other strains. And pandemic to end.

    Let it all burn through if we see all mild symptoms
    I doubt the mortality has changed. We adapt to it by getting vaccinated/infected, not the other way around imo. Severe illness/death is from immune dysregulation after the viral replication phase. I don't see why that will change.
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    Rabies is a 100% fatal 100% successful virus. Disproves the it doesn't want to kill the host theory. Viruses don't want anything, not even to survive.

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    You did just as Biden told you.

    Good boy.
    lol keep trying booster boy

    If I get boosted enough and keep eating in the parking lot I'll never catch the virus

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    lol keep trying booster boy

    If I get boosted enough and keep eating in the parking lot I'll never catch the virus
    Still don't understand that parking lot smack. Yes, I ate Texas Roadhouse in my car in the parking lot instead of inside the restaurant in 2020 before we had vaccines.

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    Still don't understand that parking lot smack. Yes, I ate Texas Roadhouse in my car in the parking lot instead of inside the restaurant in 2020 before we had vaccines.
    Every time I say it to Chump you think I'm talking about you . Chump is the one who got N95's early on so he could go through whataburger drive thru and eat in the parking lot. He's the one who said he's never going to catch the virus.

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    Rabies is a 100% fatal 100% successful virus. Disproves the it doesn't want to kill the host theory. Viruses don't want anything, not even to survive.
    Its not that viruses think. Its called evolution. The strain that can infect the most hosts for longer wins in the end.

    Kinda like those birds with beautiful colors. They slowly evolved by the ugoy ones dying out and the pretty ones.getting all the pussy and offspring....

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    Every time I say it to Chump you think I'm talking about you . Chump is the one who got N95's early on so he could go through whataburger drive thru and eat in the parking lot. He's the one who said he's never going to catch the virus.
    Wearing a n95 back in february-june 2020 is nothing to laugh at tbqh

    I was vouching for this. As soon as it was a fact that 99.5% of under 65 survive. Its a different story. I still vouched for kn95s deep into 2020. I dont see an issue with this.


    Wearinh a n95 in 2021 and after 2 shots tho

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    Biosafety expert close to Wuhan Ins ute of Virology urged associates there to address his tough questions about lab origin of SARS-CoV-2

    In early 2020, as the world was reeling from the fast spread of the Covid-19 pandemic, a leading biosafety expert with close ties to the Wuhan Ins ute of Virology (WIV) encouraged scientists there to launch an “investigation” into whether the new disease could have come from the ins ute, including answering many of his specific questions about lab activities, emails obtained by U.S. Right to Know show.
    The emails show that James Le Duc, a professor and former director of Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas Medical Branch (UTMB), suggested scientists at the ins ute in China should not wait for an outside probe, but gather information and be prepared to answer questions about their work and how it may be connected to SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes Covid-19.
    In a Feb. 9, 2020 email to WIV Professor Yuan Zhiming, Le Duc wrote that he thought it was important to “aggressively address these rumors and presumably false accusations quickly and provide definitive, honest information to counter misinformation.”
    “If there are weaknesses in your program, now is the time to admit them and get them corrected. I trust that you will take my suggestions in the spirit of one friend trying to help another during a very difficult time,” he wrote.
    Though the February 2020 email indicated he downplayed the possibility of a lab leak, only two months later, Le Duc wrote in a separate correspondence to Phillip Russell, former president of the American Society of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene, that it was “certainly possible a lab accident was the source of the epidemic and I also agree that we can’t trust the Chinese government.”
    Le Duc was no stranger to the Wuhan ins ute; he had sponsored and trained WIV scientists at the Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) laboratory he ran in Galveston, and records show he made multiple trips to Wuhan to train virologists there since 1986.
    In 2018 Le Duc co-authored an article in Science magazine with Yuan, who was then director of the WIV BSL-4 laboratory. Le Duc and Yuan referred to their “partnership” in the article, and wrote that they had “engaged in short- and long-term personnel exchanges focused on biosafety training, building operations and maintenance, and collaborative scientific investigations in biocontainment.”
    BSL-3 and BSL-4 are biocontainment lab designations for handling dangerous pathogens. The higher level BSL-4 is used for working with the most dangerous high-risk agents, including Ebola and Marburg viruses.
    Tough questions go unanswered
    In the February 2020 email, Le Duc laid out numerous questions that he thought the WIV should address as part of an investigation into the possibility that the virus was “the result of a release from the Wuhan Ins ute of Virology (main campus or new BSL3/BSL4 facilities).”
    Among the questions he posed:
    *Where is coronavirus research conducted? What level of biocontainment?
    *What are the coronaviruses in your possession that are most closely related to nCoV [novel coronaviruses] based on genetic sequences and are able to replicate in culture?
    *Is there an inventory record of each isolate of each coronavirus kept? If so, are there any discrepancies between the record and actual current inventory number?
    * How many people have access to the coronavirus stocks and laboratory?Senior investigators? Junior investigators? Technical support staff? Post-docs? Students? Animal handlers? Janitors and other cleaning staff? Building support personnel? Others?
    * Is anyone on your team conducting gain of function studies, recombination studies or any other studies that may have resulted in the creation of the nCoV ?
    *Does a serum bank exist for staff and students working on infectious agents? If yes, could a current serum and the most recent banked sera be serologically tested for antibody to nCoV in an effort to do ent seroconversion?
    *Does the Ins ute have an occupational health clinic where employees and students can go to seek medical care? If so, was there any indication of unusual illness similar to that seen for nCoV among Ins ute staff?
    *Where and when were the first Wuhan (or Hubei Province) residents infected with the nCoV first identified (hospital or clinic name/date of earliest cases)? Do staff members of the Ins ute reside in the district serviced by this (these) hospital/clinic (s)?
    *Do staff members of the Wuhan Ins ute of Virology frequent the sea food/live market first associated with the nCoV outbreak? Did any staff member visit the market in the weeks prior to it being closed? If so, how many staff frequent the market? How often would they visit the market during the period of interest?
    On April 13, 2020, Le Duc forwarded his email to Yuan to David Franz, former commander of the U.S. Army Medical Research Ins ute of Infectious Diseases, saying he had never received a response to his questions.
    “As we explore trying to reengage our dialogue, some of these questions might be discussed,” he wrote to Franz.
    Though the World Health Organization (WHO) has been conducting its own investigation into the origins of SARS-CoV-2, many of the questions raised by Le Duc remain unanswered. And many scientists around the world fear there may never be a full, thorough and unconflicted investigation of the origins of SARS-CoV-2.
    The April 2020 exchange between Le Duc and Russell shows that Russell, a physician, vaccine scientist and retired U.S. Army major general who died in 2021, was concerned that a “coverup” of the virus origins may be underway.
    Russell wrote: “That does not rule out the possibility that one of the many bat coronaviruses isolated in the Wuhan lab infected a technician who walked out the door. No need for engineering the virus. The flimsiness of the epidemiology pointing to the wet market, the absence of bats in the market, the failure to identify an intermediate animal host, the extraordinary measures taken by the Chinese government, including persecution and probable killing of two brave physicians, to cover up the outbreak, the steps taken to silence the laboratory personnel,. the change in leadership of the lab, all point to the lab as the source of the outbreak.”
    “This reminds me of the efforts by Matt Messelson and many colleagues to coverup up the Sverdeslosk [Sverdlovsk] anthrax outbreak,” Russell continued. “They succeeded for many years aided and abetted by many in academia until Ken Alibek defected and the truth came out. I bought the wet market story for months but now am very skeptical of anything information coming from the Chinese government.”
    U.S. Right to Know obtained the emails for this article through a Texas Public Information Act (TPIA) request on July 3, 2020. UTMB did not produce these do ents until November 23, 2021, more than 16 months later. USRTK filed a second TPIA request with UTMB on September 23, 2020, but more than 14 months later UTMB still has not yet produced any do ents in response.

    https://usrtk.org/biohazards/biosafe...of-sars-cov-2/






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    It'll be everywhere soon.

    Uncontrolled community transmission, bad data collection and indifference to mass disease and death are US hallmarks.
    Just imagine the amount of fear pimping you get to do now. Your poor little fingers.

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    I doubt the mortality has changed. We adapt to it by getting vaccinated/infected, not the other way around imo. Severe illness/death is from immune dysregulation after the viral replication phase. I don't see why that will change.
    Not sure about that. Electricity wants to take the shortest, least resistive path to ground so there's that.

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    It's not a law. Smallpox never got less deadly.
    Still, subsequent smallpox outbreaks in America had shown low lethality, and the virus that caused these epidemics was given the name variola minor alastrim. During its spread to the American continent, the evolution of the West African subtype of variola virus led to a reduction in the case fatality rate of smallpox from 12% to less than 1%

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    “Still, subsequent smallpox outbreaks in America had shown low lethality, and the virus that caused these epidemics was given the name variola minor alastrim. During its spread to the American continent, the evolution of the West African subtype of variola virus led to a reduction in the case fatality rate of smallpox from 12% to less than 1%.“

    Cause copy-paste normally requires attribution

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    Glib copypasta hiding the source. Still no support for a "law of decreasing virulence."

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    Glib copypasta hiding the source. Still no support for a "law of decreasing virulence."
    Better get in your jammies and read a comforting bedtime story. You can doom scroll after your 10 mile bike ride.

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    Still, subsequent smallpox outbreaks in America had shown low lethality, and the virus that caused these epidemics was given the name variola minor alastrim. During its spread to the American continent, the evolution of the West African subtype of variola virus led to a reduction in the case fatality rate of smallpox from 12% to less than 1%
    Evolutionary divergence and co-circulation over the course of hundreds of years is not at all comparable to covid variants over the course of months.

    We keep going through the variant scare and one side says it's getting milder and one side says maybe it's worse but in the end virulence in naive populations has remained the same. I'd be happy to be wrong but the cases we know of so far are either vaxxed or younger people so you would expect them to be overwhelmingly mild cases. I'll stick with virulence remains the same and vaccines remain highly effective. We'll find out soon enough.

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    Better get in your jammies and read a comforting bedtime story. You can doom scroll after your 10 mile bike ride.
    I can doomscoll anytime I please and I'm nowhere close to bedtime.

    Thanks for your personal.interest in me tho, it really underscores your topical focus.

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    I can doomscoll anytime I please and I'm nowhere close to bedtime.

    Thanks for your personal.interest in me tho, it really underscores your topical focus.

    You revealed your fake fitness routine, fat boy.

    Your keyboard doesn't burn many calories.

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    You revealed your fake fitness routine, fat boy.

    Your keyboard doesn't burn many calories.
    it's hilarious you think you can deduce this from patterns of posting., tbh.

    how do you know so much about people you don't know in meatspace?

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