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    The combination of too many covid patients, the need to treat those who delayed care and staff shortages have pushed hospitals into crisis, said Robin Wittenstein, CEO of Denver Health, which runs one of the state’s biggest hospital and clinic systems.

    “They’re coming into hospitals now sicker than ever before. And they’re coming in larger numbers than we’ve ever seen before,” Wittenstein said on the day when most metro-area counties announced they were enacting a new indoor, public mask mandate. “Our system is on the brink of collapse.”


    At the academic medical center UCHealth, Dr. Abbey Lara said the crush of unvaccinated patients in the ICU means patients face longer waits or they don’t get much-needed diagnostic tests. In the worst-case scenario, “patients who could have survived something had their life cut short because they weren’t able to access care,” she said.


    And when there are too many patients being treated by too few staffers, Lara said, that ratchets up the difficulty for providers.


    “I just worry that there’s going to be not only a lot of turnover in the near future,” Lara said. “But I think that access to health care is just going to get even worse in the future.”


    Lara predicted the effects of the pandemic will be felt long after the emergency ends: “The sky isn’t falling, but the sky is going to turn a very different color.”

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    Republicans were fine with mail-in voting until the dems used it more, full-stop.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 12-16-2021 at 02:17 PM.

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    There are eight all main in states


    https://ballotpedia.org/All-mail_voting

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    False, they've had it for everything for 30 years in Oregon, without any significant problems.
    Oregon is 1 of 50 states.

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    Republicans were fine with mail-in voting until their guy lost, full-stop.
    Still fine with it - disabled, military, etc.

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    What's your beef with mail in voting?

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    Still fine with it - disabled, military, etc.
    So what's the problem?

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    I quite agree, but D_F is talking about voter impersonation, the incidence of which approaches zero, statistically.
    I'm not just talking about mail in crap. Ballot harvesting should be illegal in all states, or at least regulated to ensure Stacey Abrams isn't helping dementia patients vote from their nursing homes.

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    some time after Jan 2025, Repugs pass laws

    mail-in voting illegal

    surgical abortion illegal, including criminalizing the mother, and for women travelling abroad for abortion

    medical abortion illegal

    contraception illegal (embryo murder)

    Obergefell annulled

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    some time after Jan 2025, Repugs pass laws

    mail-in voting illegal

    surgical abortion illegal, including criminalizing the mother, and for women travelling abroad for abortion

    medical abortion illegal

    contraception illegal (embryo murder)

    Obergefell annulled
    Stfu loon!

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    I'm not just talking about mail in crap. Ballot harvesting should be illegal in all states, or at least regulated to ensure Stacey Abrams isn't helping dementia patients vote from their nursing homes.
    where's the evidence any of this was illegal and made a difference?

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    looks like someone is back to making stuff up to support his arguments

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    South Korea decides "living with COVID" is insane, reimposes restrictions to relieve the strain on hospitals.

    They aren't going back to a covid zero policy. That would be insane.

    Living with covid is the only option no matter how much you cry that it will just go away with the right policies

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    I'm not just talking about mail in crap. Ballot harvesting should be illegal in all states, or at least regulated to ensure Stacey Abrams isn't helping dementia patients vote from their nursing homes.
    So you're now changing the subject.

    It's all coming down to your feelings of fear you'll lose again if enough people vote. You have no evidence of the fraud you are suggesting.

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    They aren't going back to a covid zero policy. That would be insane.

    Living with covid is the only option no matter how much you cry that it will just go away with the right policies
    ...as President Trump told us 2 years ago come next month.

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    ...as President Trump told us 2 years ago come next month.
    Yep. It is what it is.

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    Why all of a sudden can't I "like" Threads post? hmm...

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    Why all of a sudden can't I "like" Threads post? hmm...
    Deep State

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    I tried liking Thread's post and then the damn "like" disappeared and isn't visible whatsoever. I can like everyone else's though. Old clunky vBoard code.

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    They aren't going back to a covid zero policy. That would be insane.

    Living with covid is the only option no matter how much you cry that it will just go away with the right policies
    Living with it is reasonable now that we have vaccines. Their prevention efforts the first year though were great.

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    Living with it is reasonable now that we have vaccines. Their prevention efforts the first year though were great.
    It's primarily their testing rollout that was responsible for the success they had. In a rational world we would have a purge at the CDC for the extreme level of incompetence they demonstrated. Instead, the only one kicked to the curb was the only one sounding the alarm, Dr. Messonier.

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    So you're now changing the subject.

    It's all coming down to your feelings of fear you'll lose again if enough people vote. You have no evidence of the fraud you are suggesting.
    You are not following along.

    I made no accusations of fraud, only theoreticals. Question marks that leave people feeling uneasy about the results.

    I do wish that demcoratic politicians and MSM actually cared about election integrity, though, instead of constantly painting a false dichotomy of "voting rights" BS. Show up, show an I.D. and cast your ballot. Only the left finds racism in sh1t like that

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    They aren't going back to a covid zero policy. That would be insane.

    Living with covid is the only option no matter how much you cry that it will just go away with the right policies
    This.

    Of all the measures taken, only vaccines have made a difference. The cloth polkadot masks people wear at the store are theatrical BS.

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    This.

    Of all the measures taken, only vaccines have made a difference. The cloth polkadot masks people wear at the store are theatrical BS.
    ...as they were 100 years ago..."A piece of gauze proved worthless."

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