Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[Splits]

Can you imagine if your corporate messaging on this revolved around christian god?

[hater]

There aren't even a million worldwide cases.


Get a brown bag and take slow breaths.

wordwide cases are doubling every 5-6 days. well hit a million easily by friday

we will have over 100k cases by then

[pgardn]

These are the kinds of articles we need more of imo.

Best guess from scientists who have already been studying the biology of these viruses.
The articles with overwhelming stats without explanation of why numbers might be off one way or another might not be so helpful.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...avirus/608338/

A really good biology summary thus far. Hope more like this are published as we find out more.

[hater]

good point of view from americans in China for those idiots who say china is all bull

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...mpression=true

[hater]

its a really bad sign that china still in lockdown despite all theyve done


we are royally ed. better stock up on mo toilet paper

[midnightpulp]

These are the kinds of articles we need more of imo.

Best guess from scientists who have already been studying the biology of these viruses.
The articles with overwhelming stats without explanation of why numbers might be off one way or another might not be so helpful.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...avirus/608338/

A really good biology summary thus far. Hope more like this are published as we find out more.

Small issue with this article is the contention that Corvid won't reduce much in frequency when it warms up, and the citation was a non-peer reviewed paper from over two weeks ago. This more thorough study from University of Maryland shows that the virus doesn't propagate as well in warmer weather.

https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/...to-Thrive.html

You'll see in a recent new thread I posted where I correlate flu virality to corvid virality in NY, CA, TX, and Florida. NY was the only ten+ million populated state to really get "hit," this is despite their patient zero arriving on March 1 vs. California's Jan 26th, and Texas's March 4. Texas and California are outside of the temperature zones where virus like to propagate best. I also think the Singapore example was way overstated to try and make a case. Corvid didn't swamp Singapore at all. 455 cases, 2 deaths. And they had their first case way back in Jan. 22. And Singapore has the 3rd largest population density in the world, yet their situation is nowhere close to Italy's (right in the "hot zone" temperature wise). Singapore isn't even on any kind of national lockdown. They've cancelled some large events, but local economies are still functioning as normal.

[benefactor]

Medium took down that post that TSA linked. Wtf. I guess anything less than keeping people in a panic is unacceptable.

[hater]

stupid Mnuchin says nobody knew this virus would take off so fast

stupid garbage Trump admin and US govmt didnt read my thread I guess

called it early January

USA is a laughingstock when a spurstalk poster knows way more than them

[boutons_deux]

immunity by infection or vaccine? likely, but not guaranteed

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-immunity-reinfection-get-covid-19-twice-sick-spread-relapse-a9400691.html

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Can wearing gloves help prevent coronavirus? Here’s what health experts say


https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article241129091.html

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We’re not going back to normal


https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615370/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing-18-months/?truid=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&utm_source =engagement_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=si te_visitor.unpaid.engagement&utm_content=3.18.non-subs

[baseline bum]

Haven't really gotten any dangerous symptoms today and thankfully haven't puked in maybe 16 hours but this feels like the worst flu I have had. I'll prob be alright but this thing ain't no joke.

[pgardn]

Small issue with this article is the contention that Corvid won't reduce much in frequency when it warms up, and the citation was a non-peer reviewed paper from over two weeks ago. This more thorough study from University of Maryland shows that the virus doesn't propagate as well in warmer weather.

https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/...to-Thrive.html

You'll see in a recent new thread I posted where I correlate flu virality to corvid virality in NY, CA, TX, and Florida. NY was the only ten+ million populated state to really get "hit," this is despite their patient zero arriving on March 1 vs. California's Jan 26th, and Texas's March 4. Texas and California are outside of the temperature zones where virus like to propagate best. I also think the Singapore example was way overstated to try and make a case. Corvid didn't swamp Singapore at all. 455 cases, 2 deaths. And they had their first case way back in Jan. 22. And Singapore has the 3rd largest population density in the world, yet their situation is nowhere close to Italy's (right in the "hot zone" temperature wise). Singapore isn't even on any kind of national lockdown. They've cancelled some large events, but local economies are still functioning as normal.

Excellent.
Keep em coming.

My feeling was epidemiological stats were weighing some down a bit because people on this board are taking wild stabs because authors are. The article I posted is merely the biology of these RNA virus(es). And if people find some differences from other sources let them rip. The person who wrote does not write journals for science publications, just gathers info and puts it out there. I have seen nothing broader yet concise so far on the biology of these types of viruses and written so that the layman can understand.

Good job Atlantic

And thanks for the amendment pulp.

[boutons_deux]

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) advice for the public: Myth busters


https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...c/myth-busters

[pgardn]

Haven't really gotten any dangerous symptoms today and thankfully haven't puked in maybe 16 hours but this feels like the worst flu I have had. I'll prob be alright but this thing ain't no joke.

I did read that some have experienced gastrointestinal symptoms.
Please keep hydrated and pee a lot. You might also wanna get upright here and there.
Also those breathing exercises Darrin put up from that British couple, if you do get short on breath.

Im going on what I would do based on what you are feeling. Not a doc. Might want to do an anti inflammatory if you get the crap in the respiratory system. I would go acetaminophen even though I really don’t like it on the liver. I use ibuprofen for muscle soreness if I exercise too hard bu it’s not big on inflammation, just pain.

Stay well and stay with us please.

[midnightpulp]

Excellent.
Keep em coming.

My feeling was epidemiological stats were weighing some down a bit because people on this board are taking wild stabs because authors are. The article I posted is merely the biology of these RNA virus(es). And if people find some differences from other sources let them rip. The person who wrote does not write journals for science publications, just gathers info and puts it out there. I have seen nothing broader yet concise so far on the biology of these types of viruses and written so that the layman can understand.

Good job Atlantic

And thanks for the amendment pulp.

Indeed. I know we don't want to indulge in Dinning-Kruger (everyone is an expert about everything in times like this) and just "trust the experts," but experts usually don't have perfect consensus, so then it's up to us to sift through the data and opinions and make a logical conclusions. Personally, I think there's a very compelling case this virus will drop in frequency when it warms and less dense populated areas won't get overwhelmed, which bodes well for places like Cali, Texas, etc. And the warmer weather in Singapore has seemed to limit spread, despite them basically living on top of each other in a global country where I'm sure Chinese citizens travel to and from very frequently.

Paradoxically, I think many of these of scientists seemed to make rookie errors. All their projections about what the virus was going to do came from Wuhan and then Italy, and they were making simplistic 1 to 1 comparisons. I thought the first thing you do vis a vis the scientific method is control for variables? Wuhan and Italy aren't New York, New York isn't Texas, and so. Different climates, population densities, social cultures, median age groups, etc. Yet early on, many scientists and experts were forecasting situations entirely based on Wuhan and Italy. Maybe they just wanted to "hype it" a bit so we take it seriously. Even Fauci said if the population thinks we're overreacting, it means we're doing our job.

[baseline bum]

I did read that some have experienced gastrointestinal symptoms.
Please keep hydrated and pee a lot. You might also wanna get upright here and there.
Also those breathing exercises Darrin put up from that British couple, if you do get short on breath.

Im going on what I would do based on what you are feeling. Not a doc. Might want to do an anti inflammatory if you get the crap in the respiratory system. I would go acetaminophen even though I really don’t like it on the liver. I use ibuprofen for muscle soreness if I exercise too hard bu it’s not big on inflammation, just pain.

Stay well and stay with us please.

I have been using aceitomenophin but only twice a day because like you said, it completely s your liver if you overdo it. I can't take ibuprofen, it gives me headaches. Sitting up and standing make me nauseous so just mostly been in bed two days.

[pgardn]

Medium took down that post that TSA linked. Wtf. I guess anything less than keeping people in a panic is unacceptable.

Honestly, I think if it did get taken down due to something wrong, it was this misstep on flattening the curve. We are getting overwhelmed in NY and Seattle. The author tried to use longer term economics as a reason for the flattening being counter productive. Even if you do believe the authors assessment, which I don’t, it could be taken as a e it. (Which I don’t think the author intended)

But people should be able to figure that out on their own. I hope it was not indeed taken down. Hopefully its just slight amendments or it goes back up untouched.

[pgardn]

I have been using aceitomenophin but only twice a day because like you said, it completely s your liver if you overdo it. I can't take ibuprofen, it gives me headaches. Sitting up and standing make me nauseous so just mostly been in bed two days.

Can you hold fluids down?
I hope so. If not, just small sips more often.
The flushing (peeing) is a great way to remove dead cellular due to viral destruction.

You also need to keep things in homeostasis in case symptoms go hard respiratory.

[baseline bum]

Can you hold fluids down?

Oh yeah I have drinking a load of water.

[pgardn]

Oh yeah I have drinking a load of water.

1/3 Gatorade 2/3 water if you can.
You actually absorb water faster into your circulation with some electrolytes in it.

If it gags you, forget it.

[midnightpulp]

Honestly, I think if it did get taken down due to something wrong, it was this misstep on flattening the curve. We are getting overwhelmed in NY and Seattle. The author tried to use longer term economics as a reason for the flattening being counter productive. Even if you do believe the authors assessment, which I don’t, it could be taken as a e it. (Which I don’t think the author intended)

But people should be able to figure that out on their own. I hope it was not indeed taken down. Hopefully its just slight amendments or it goes back up untouched.

Yeah, it was rock solid objective up until he infused his economic point-of-view toward the end there. No problem with asking questions about the economic ramifications from shelter-in-place and business closure orders, but I think it's too early to do that. We need another week to see how the virus is progressing.

I'm hopeful states like Texas and Florida can get back to a semblance of normality. Maybe here in California. We were the 2nd epicenter after Washington almost 2 months ago and the virus didn't sweep the state. Many might look at the accelerating number of cases here over the past week and say, "It's accelerating!" but what is accelerating is testing and deaths now attributed to the virus. Before the concerns became mainstream, deaths were probably attributed to complications from influenza. Point is, the virus has like being circulating around and killing people before the first official recorded cases and deaths.

[DMC]

1/3 Gatorade 2/3 water if you can.
You actually absorb water faster into your circulation with some electrolytes in it.

If it gags you, forget it.

Nah, Bum's gag reflex is tamed. You can pet it.

[pgardn]

Indeed. I know we don't want to indulge in Dinning-Kruger (everyone is an expert about everything in times like this) and just "trust the experts," but experts usually don't have perfect consensus, so then it's up to us to sift through the data and opinions and make a logical conclusions. Personally, I think there's a very compelling case this virus will drop in frequency when it warms and less dense populated areas won't get overwhelmed, which bodes well for places like Cali, Texas, etc. And the warmer weather in Singapore has seemed to limit spread, despite them basically living on top of each other in a global country where I'm sure Chinese citizens travel to and from very frequently.

Paradoxically, I think many of these of scientists seemed to make rookie errors. All their projections about what the virus was going to do came from Wuhan and then Italy, and they were making simplistic 1 to 1 comparisons. I thought the first thing you do vis a vis the scientific method is control for variables? Wuhan and Italy aren't New York, New York isn't Texas, and so. Different climates, population densities, social cultures, median age groups, etc. Yet early on, many scientists and experts were forecasting situations entirely based on Wuhan and Italy. Maybe they just wanted to "hype it" a bit so we take it seriously. Even Fauci said if the population thinks we're overreacting, it means we're doing our job.

The epidemiology is horribly difficult which is your second paragraph. They make models and the assumptions that go into the models can be horribly wrong. Also I would not doubt if political pressure involving “We need answers now” comes into play because in politics you have to answers, and they have to be correct.

[chunticakes]

I have been using aceitomenophin but only twice a day because like you said, it completely s your liver if you overdo it. I can't take ibuprofen, it gives me headaches. Sitting up and standing make me nauseous so just mostly been in bed two days.

Don't go over four grams in a 24 period and you'll be fine. In other words take two extra strength 500 mg tablets every six hrs and you'll be okay.

[hater]

Placido Domingo

RIP corona is a killer

[midnightpulp]

Placido Domingo

RIP corona is a killer

He should be fine. Opera singer. Stands to reason he was a non-smoker and took care of himself. Even in "OMG ITALY" old people without pre-existing conditions recovered at a 99.2 percent rate.