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How's come when I lodge (flu #'s) I'm cast down with the sodomites & put on [Ignore] lists, but, when you do it everyone is genuflecting?
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"for every ill wind blows good fortune for someone."
Something like that.
why do you think I was answering your question?
Because you were quoting me.
They look to be using the worldometer data, I believe.
Yes, but case e also e in testing. We're testing more now than ever.
Thing is, you can't trivialize this as another flu, even if it is another flu, because as I've told you, we can't handle TWO flus in the same season. People underrate how severe the flu really is. It isn't just the sniffles and a slight fever.
The warm weather theory is bull . Flu is already dropping and yet this is exploding. NOLA is going to be the next NYC and its not cold there.
CA reacted early. Thats why they've somewhat leveled off.
Its not the ing weather.
https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest
Look at the individual trajectories by country. Weather isn't a significant limiter or cause of acceleration.
Rural areas have far fewer beds, but also far fewer people. Not sure how it breaks out per capita. The good thing is not everything is going to happen at once. If we get it under control in NY, we can shift resources elsehwere. The key is keeping it in check as much as possible everywhere.
There's so little foresight in our leadership at the federal level right now.
We need mass antibodies tests.
No we didn't. We had two cases in Los Angeles county way back in Jan. 27, a month and half before New York had their first confirmed case. It was business as usual here all the way up until early March, and it was only the Bay Area that issued a shelter-in-place order. So for literally a month, all of California was still packing clubs, casinos, beaches, bars, restaurants, etc, etc, and there hasn't been any kind of "explosion."
As to Louisiana, they're the outlier, not the rule. Most other regions in that warm weather band have not had "explosions." And we don't know the particulars of the Louisiana situation. If it crept its way into a nursing home and killed 20 people, that would skew the data. And what about Florida?
This virus isn't magical. I don't know why people believe it's going to behave differently than other coronaviruses and flu viruses.
On my bolded point, oh.
The news of their deaths Monday came just hours before state officials announced a second cluster of cases had been discovered at a Donaldsonville retirement home.
Testing is going up massively so that number of cases is until test availabilty and testing criteria are stable. Deaths overall and in spcific geographic locales with a two week lag period is the only useful criteria to me until test availability and testing criteria are stable.
Was this due to overwhelmed hospitals and medical facilites across the nation, or the deadly nature of some flu viruses on both young and old?
Yeah, testing is also important to know how well social distancing is working out, and compare between states with different policies right now
Then we should've treated "the flu" like we're treating Corona.
Instead for decades we've watched over a million Americans die from it without batting at eye lash.
We need mass antibodies tests.
That would mean over 3 million people in New York have already need infected. It should not be that difficult to conduct a study to determine if this is total BS or has some validity.
This is good news, but, again, dependent on how fast and how much the virus spreads. 1 million infected vs 3 million infected at a time, even with that number, can make a huge difference.
We need mass antibodies tests.
Look at Eagle, Gunnison and Pitkin with ski areas that attract foreigners. Eagle started March 2 courtesy of an Italian. Ski areas in Eagle shut down March 17, now locals only. County has a population of 55,000 and now as of the 23rd 80 cases. Steady increase per day rate but not wildly exponential growth but way, way more than the healthcare system, which is good but focused almost entirely on orthopedics and oncoology with average remaining services can handle. For now they're shipping to Denver but when Denver’s saturated they’re fooked.
https://covid19.colorado.gov/case-data
No you should not because of the number of people that become infected fairly quickly.
The potential for overall deaths has been clearly a worry for epidemiologists.
This is a point that people are now swinging and missing on.
And we have no vaccine.
we have a vaccine that reduces the risk by about 50%
Measuring by acceleration doesn't give a clear picture. Acceleration could be completely due to accelerated testing. Also, small numbers accelerate greater than large numbers. If a country who hasn't provided any testing or limited testing data and then suddenly performs ten thousand tests, their acceleration will look like it has exploded on a plot.
Here's the world of meter data. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
You can easy correlate case count and death rate to this map (done by a virology department):
https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/...to-Thrive.html
You might argue that those warm weather areas are "behind," but no. Australia's first death was back on March 2. They're currently at 7 deaths, and they've only started getting "serious" in the last week. New York was a month and half behind California.
i dont think you can extrapolate the tested :: positive ratio to the entire population because the people getting tested tend to be symptomatic, right?
Before we had inoculation, the worst version of the flu back in 1918 had a death rate of 3.4% to ~20%. Hard to gauge if worse than this particular virus, as medicine wasn't what it is today then. But still pretty deadly.
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