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    Try months. Two to six.
    At least four month because Unemployment/wk + $600.00/wk thru July.

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    There is doctor in NY who claims he's treated 350 patients with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and z-pak, and said all 350 recovered without needing to be hospitalized.
    God I hope its this easy.
    Zinc did not even help me with a cold.
    I know the symptoms very quickly, sore throat.
    The zinc did nothing.

    The other stuff I have not tried. The symptoms on the viral crap I have gotten very mild.
    Exception, mono. That kicked my butt for 2 weeks, I felt better, came back too quickly based on my WBC count. The kicked my butt for a whole semester of college. Variance in the ability to fight different diseases, to take different drugs is quite amazing. My brother is hugely allergic to penicillin and amoxicillin as is my father. The Stuff has worked fine on me but that was a while back.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Texas is looking real good. We can see here that in states that are getting hit the hardest, the inflection point comes quick and just exponentially explodes in about 10 days:

    https://covidtracking.com/data/state/new-york/
    https://covidtracking.com/data/state/louisiana/
    https://covidtracking.com/data/state/michigan/

    Texas's last 10 days are much smoother.

    https://covidtracking.com/data/state/texas/
    Because we're not testing anyone. Real good? Dude, accounts for doctors and nurses down in Houston don't say its "real good".

    I don't know if you realize how ty your posts come off during the middle of a disaster. Real good? REALLY?

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    LA health care provider thanks woman for her coronavirus ‘sacrifice’ after cutting off her lupus meds

    KP:

    “Thank you for the sacrifice you will be making for the sake of those that are critically ill;

    your sacrifice may actually save lives,”


    “The fact that they thanked me for my ‘sacrifice’ is disturbing,” said Dale to BuzzFeed News.

    “I never agreed to sacrifice my health and possibly my life, and

    cannot believe that I am being forced to do so …

    I am already immunocompromised, and

    not taking this medication likely put me into a lupus flare,

    making serious complications from COVID more likely.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/la-health-care-provider-thanks-woman-for-her-coronavirus-sacrifice-after-cutting-off-her-lupus-meds/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4133

    Is there any evidence that the drugs are any benefit to seriously ill covid-19 people?






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    My mom has lupus too. Luckily, she has been able to get her meds.

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    Here are some quotes from actual doctors in Houston from an Aggie board I'm on:

    If you don't already have CV, the best way to give yourself CV is to go to an ER right now. We are currently seeing more CV than any other issue combined. If he feels he doesn't need to go to the ER, he should be self-quarantining and assume that he does have it. Testing is of minimal concern in most of these individuals as the disease is already wide spread.
    I was yelled at twice for "refusing" to test kids with symptoms yesterday. I am not refusing and I don't think "your kid is not important" we simply do not have enough test kits to test people that aren't critically ill. Please remember it is not the doctor being a jerk it is a limitation of current resources.
    I have people yelling at me daily because they not get tested. Realistically the test is only for statistics unless you are seriously ill and will require hospitalization. So like was previously stated if you have the symptoms assume you are positive and go home to isolate yourself.

    In the future you will be able to get a blood test for IgM and IgG and it will tell you if you have had it or not. Currently it is not really important because the treatment is the same just isolation and rest. As long as you do not get short of breath walking around your house you should be ok. If you are getting short of breath walking than you should consider going to the hospital.
    The worldometer is a bunch of nonsense if you are using it to look at total number of cases. We likely have many millions in the US alone who have already been infected. But luckily the majority of these cases are mild or asymptomatic. No one knows the true number we just keep finding out it is probably way more then we realize each day. Also remember that we will have a blood test for IgG and IgM which will some day give us a greater picture of the true extent of this pandemic.

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    inhumane rightwingnutjobs are dead serious about killing people with covid-19

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    Today, The Federalist, a right-wing publication, shared a tweet that read:

    It is time to think outside the box and

    seriously consider a somewhat unconventional approach to COVID-19:

    controlled voluntary infection.”

    The tweet, which linked to an op-ed by Dr. Douglas A. Perednia from the site about “chickenpox parties,”

    the Portland-based author of the piece is a dermatologist who is not currently licensed to practice medicine in the state of Oregon.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...tail=emaildkre

    rightwingnutjobs prying open the Overton window

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    Because we're not testing anyone. Real good? Dude, accounts for doctors and nurses down in Houston don't say its "real good".

    I don't know if you realize how ty your posts come off during the middle of a disaster. Real good? REALLY?
    yea the fact he said things are going real good in texas make me nervous as

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    Here are some quotes from actual doctors in Houston from an Aggie board I'm on:
    me this is horrifying to read

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    Because we're not testing anyone. Real good? Dude, accounts for doctors and nurses down in Houston don't say its "real good".

    I don't know if you realize how ty your posts come off during the middle of a disaster. Real good? REALLY?
    Seems like you're trusting anecdotes over data. How do we know those patients rushing Houston area hospitals actually have the virus when you just said yourself "we're not testing anyone." Flu symptoms are similar to this virus. People could be overreacting and visiting the ER for so much as a light cough (that isn't caused by the virus). Point is WE DON'T KNOW.

    But yeah, my posts are ty looking for the bright sides, which is based on the data YOU'VE INVOKED YOURSELF AND THE EXPERTS YOU CITE INVOKE. Now "I'm doing it wrong." in' please. Go lecture somewhere else.

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    me this is horrifying to read
    im worried about your anxiety overwhelming the hospitals

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    My mom has lupus too. Luckily, she has been able to get her meds.
    And this leads again to a very socialist idea.

    Since hospitals and health care insurance bottom line is to make money we need federal help.
    Hospitals were naturally caught with their pants down on so many medical materials because it is NOT in their economic interest to prepare for a disaster and buy a bunch of extra supplies just in case. Same with Heath care insurers but in a diff mechanism.

    We need FEDERAL repositories of medical supplies.
    We must have learned this.
    Oh noes, the federal government cant handle this, let a business run this... ahhh yes.
    That was a problem in the first place.

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    Here are some quotes from actual doctors in Houston from an Aggie board I'm on:
    WTF

    hater

    you seeing this scrah? Remeber when US citizens accused china of underreporting? I am 100 sure they are, but this is scary stuff.

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    im worried about your anxiety overwhelming the hospitals
    off, Philo. You completely the miss the point as usual. So who bought you your law degree? It's quite in' obvious you can't evaluate an argument to save your life.

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    me this is horrifying to read
    Dont worry it wont bother DMC, so it should not bother you.
    Go have your morning coffee now.

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    off, Philo. You completely the miss the point as usual. So who bought you your law degree? It's quite in' obvious you can't evaluate an argument to save your life.
    diploma mills are legit. beyond that it was just bribing some state bar officials

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    Dont worry it wont bother DMC, so it should not bother you.
    Go have your morning coffee now.
    Oh

    In case you were worried about me Im fine. In fact I dont think I will get it and if I do I feel I shake it off easy.
    But I can understand someone who has just been hit with a brick.

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    MannyIsGod: "Data, data, data. This is how we make projections. I'll even post the site I'm using which is a good resource."

    "Hmm, the data shows Texas in a good situation."

    MannyIsGOD: ": your posts are real ty! We can't rely on the data! We have to rely on these anecdotes posted on a college football message board! That's the better way to do it."

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    diploma mills are legit. beyond that it was just bribing some state bar officials
    At least you're maintaining sense of humor, but do you understand what I was saying? Panic doesn't not help in any situation, and the way many media outlets are presenting this does cause further panic that is not needed vs. a balanced evaluation of the situation. Like so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA2QmwVakzU&t=709s

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    In Texas, we're still in high oak pollen until late april. A LOT of people have bad allergies and think they have CV. They're only testing highly su ious symptomatic cases. Over 90% of those tests are negative.

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    At least you're maintaining sense of humor, but do you understand what I was saying? Panic doesn't not help in any situation, and the way many media outlets are presenting this does cause further panic that is not needed vs. a balanced evaluation of the situation. Like so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA2QmwVakzU&t=709s
    i've long criticized sensationalist news (typically cable news, and the product of the 24 hour news cycle), i dont think covid is an exception. just because there are some people overreaching doesn't mean going full baghdad bob is the appropriate countermeasure

    again, i dont pretend to be an expert on the issue, and you wont see me give my own projections or expected death figures or anything like that. but imo despite your constant comments about how you "aren't downplaying" it... your recent post history has seemed to be a constant downplaying of it

    worldometers had the US as 268 new deaths yesterday. latest update is already showing us at 398 today. we aren't a direct analogue to italy, but they havent even peaked yet (919 deaths today to 712 yesterday) and we are still "behind them" on the curve, in general. still appears things are still going to get worse before they get better, especially if POTUS says " it" and states go back to business as usual (many states are STILL doing that)

    we STILL have testing shortages all over the place, which is absurd. and maybe im misguided, but i reject the notion that anxiety caused by the what you believe to be frantic reporting is remotely in the same plane as what we are otherwise dealing with
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    In Texas, we're still in high oak pollen until late april. A LOT of people have bad allergies and think they have CV. They're only testing highly su ious symptomatic cases. Over 90% of those tests are negative.
    I know Manny is a smart guy for obvious reasons, probably way smarter than me, but I just don't understand him overlooking obvious problems with "the anecdote" method in this case vs. the data he was yesterday championing. Seems he wants to pick bones with posters who don't completely share the idea that we'll be living in the Walking Dead in 6 months. We don't know the actual condition of those patients that rushed the hospital. People are scared less of this virus and are demanding testing/treatment for any symptoms that might resemble it. Key word: "Concerns."

    https://www.fox5dc.com/news/coronavi...ross-dc-region

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    In Texas, we're still in high oak pollen until late april. A LOT of people have bad allergies and think they have CV. They're only testing highly su ious symptomatic cases. Over 90% of those tests are negative.

    Keep up that positivity D!

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    I know Manny is a smart guy for obvious reasons, probably way smarter than me, but I just don't understand him overlooking obvious problems with "the anecdote" method in this case vs. the data he was yesterday championing. Seems he wants to pick bones with posters who don't completely share the idea that we'll be living in the Walking Dead in 6 months. We don't know the actual condition of those patients that rushed the hospital. People are scared less of this virus and are demanding testing/treatment for any symptoms that might resemble it. Key word: "Concerns."

    https://www.fox5dc.com/news/coronavi...ross-dc-region

    Sadly, 9 out of 10 people are wasting resources. The fear is worse than the disease, tbh.

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    i've long criticized sensationalist news (typically cable news, and the product of the 24 hour news cycle), i dont think covid is an exception. just because there are some people overreaching doesn't mean going full baghdad bob is the appropriate countermeasure

    again, i dont pretend to be an expert on the issue, and you wont see me give my own projections or expected death figures or anything like that. but imo despite your constant comments about how you "aren't downplaying" it... your recent post history has seemed to be a constant downplaying of it

    worldometers had the US as 268 deaths yesterday. latest update is already showing us at 398 today. we aren't a direct analogue to italy, but they havent even peaked yet (919 deaths today to 712 yesterday) and we are still "behind them" on the curve, in general. still appears things are still going to get worse before they get better, especially if POTUS says " it" and states go back to business as usuals (many states are STILL doing that)
    But I'm not downplaying it. "Downplaying it" would be saying "meh, this thing is just a light flu and will go away by Summer." I never stated such. I posited the warm weather/UV theory (based from an expert study) not to suggest that areas in those regions will be unaffected, but they won't be affected nearly as much as densely populated areas in that "green band." And this is very important, because if CA, TX, FL become their own NYs, we're ed (I don't see that happening because the population densities will be enough to prevent that. New York City is taking the brunt, while the rest of NY state hasn't seen much acceleration: https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en).

    The Italy comparisons I still don't like because we have to remember we have 5 times as many people. I have no clue what our peak will be, but Italy is probably the worst of the worst case scenarios, even if our peak is 2000, that is half of Italy's peak per capita. And remember the data lag factor. We really don't know when those people actually died. They could've passed last week and are only being registered now.

    Agree, some states need to be dealt with by firm hand commanding their governors to issue shelter in place.

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