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    "domestic cat in Belgium has been infected with COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus that's spreading across the globe, the government's FPS Public Health, Food Chain Safety and Environment announced March 27, according to news reports.

    This is the first human-to-cat transmission of the novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2). About a week after its owner got sick with COVID-19, after returning from a trip to Northern Italy, the cat developed coronavirus symptoms: diarrhea, vomiting and respiratory issues, Steven Van Gucht, virologist and federal spokesperson for the coronavirus epidemic in Belgium, told Live Science.

    The owner sent samples of vomit and feces to Dr. Daniel Desmecht's lab at the Faculty of Veterinary Medicine of Liège. Genetic tests showed high levels of SARS-CoV-2 in those samples, he said. "The cat recovered after 9 days," Van Gucht said.

    Related: 13 Coronavirus myths busted by science

    Cats and humans appear to have a similar "doorknob" on the surfaces of respiratory cells that lets the SARS-CoV-2 virus get inside, according to Van Gucht.

    In humans, scientists have figured out that the SARS-CoV-2 virus attaches to a receptor protein called ACE2 that's on the outside of respiratory cells. Once inside of these cells, the virus hijacks certain machinery so it can replicate.

    "The feline ACE2 protein resembles the human ACE2 logue, which is most likely the cellular receptor which is being used by Sars-CoV-2 for cell entry," Van Gucht said.

    During the 2003 SARS outbreak, cats were infected with a coronavirus as well, Van Gucht said.

    The only other pets thought to have "caught" the novel coronavirus from owners were two dogs in Hong Kong. ...."

    https://www.livescience.com/cat-infe...rom-owner.html

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    "domestic cat in Belgium has been infected with COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus that's spreading across the globe, the government's FPS Public Health, Food Chain Safety and Environment announced March 27, according to news reports.

    This is the first human-to-cat transmission of the novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2). About a week after its owner got sick with COVID-19, after returning from a trip to Northern Italy, the cat developed coronavirus symptoms: diarrhea, vomiting and respiratory issues, Steven Van Gucht, virologist and federal spokesperson for the coronavirus epidemic in Belgium, told Live Science.

    The owner sent samples of vomit and feces to Dr. Daniel Desmecht's lab at the Faculty of Veterinary Medicine of Liège. Genetic tests showed high levels of SARS-CoV-2 in those samples, he said. "The cat recovered after 9 days," Van Gucht said.

    Related: 13 Coronavirus myths busted by science

    Cats and humans appear to have a similar "doorknob" on the surfaces of respiratory cells that lets the SARS-CoV-2 virus get inside, according to Van Gucht.

    In humans, scientists have figured out that the SARS-CoV-2 virus attaches to a receptor protein called ACE2 that's on the outside of respiratory cells. Once inside of these cells, the virus hijacks certain machinery so it can replicate.

    "The feline ACE2 protein resembles the human ACE2 logue, which is most likely the cellular receptor which is being used by Sars-CoV-2 for cell entry," Van Gucht said.

    During the 2003 SARS outbreak, cats were infected with a coronavirus as well, Van Gucht said.

    The only other pets thought to have "caught" the novel coronavirus from owners were two dogs in Hong Kong. ...."

    https://www.livescience.com/cat-infe...rom-owner.html

    That is some xfiles right there

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    Russia says 40% of their ventilator cases are ppl under 40 yrs old

    either the “this is an old ppl disease” is fake news or this thing is mutating

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    Russia says 40% of their ventilator cases are ppl under 40 yrs old

    either the “this is an old ppl disease” is fake news or this thing is mutating
    Where does Russia say that?

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    Where does Russia say that?
    Russian interfax

    google translate is your friend

    https://www.interfax.ru/moscow/701442

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    Russian interfax
    Link?

    Damn. Joe Diffie gone. John Prine critical.

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    Russia says 40% of their ventilator cases are ppl under 40 yrs old

    either the “this is an old ppl disease” is fake news or this thing is mutating
    not sure about mutating but only "older are greatly impacted" is def overstated

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    Russia says 40% of their ventilator cases are ppl under 40 yrs old

    either the “this is an old ppl disease” is fake news or this thing is mutating
    Pretty sure the CDC said that last week.

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    Moscow. March 29. INTERFAX.RU - About 15% of severely ill patients with coronavirus in Moscow are younger than 40 years old, the operational headquarters for monitoring and monitoring the situation with coronavirus in Moscow reported.

    According to the agency's interlocutor, almost 40% of patients with coronavirus in Moscow who are on mechanical ventilation are younger than 40 years old.

    "Statistics show that the disease is severe not only in elderly Muscovites. Almost half of patients with severe lung damage are people under 60 years old, their share in the total number of severe patients is 45%," headquarters told Interfax.

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    Moscow. March 29. INTERFAX.RU - About 15% of severely ill patients with coronavirus in Moscow are younger than 40 years old, the operational headquarters for monitoring and monitoring the situation with coronavirus in Moscow reported.

    According to the agency's interlocutor, almost 40% of patients with coronavirus in Moscow who are on mechanical ventilation are younger than 40 years old.

    "Statistics show that the disease is severe not only in elderly Muscovites. Almost half of patients with severe lung damage are people under 60 years old, their share in the total number of severe patients is 45%," headquarters told Interfax.
    Thanks. I hate when they switch groups like that (under 40 to under 60).

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    Thanks. I hate when they switch groups like that (under 40 to under 60).
    i have a feeling affected age is trending down

    been watching this for a while

    2nd wave could put a hurting on youth

    why? I think because virus will adapt to stronger young immune system and trick it to give it all its got. the young persons immune system will trigger that internal storm that kills its host

    lets hope this is not the case

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    That's just the media being sensationalist. Fauci literally said it wasn't a prediction and to not hold him to it because it's hard to project on a moving target. And yet CNN runs that as their headline smh.
    While it's true he said not to hold me to that he did say we'll be more in the middle because the model is set up in such a way to give worst case scenario and worst case scenarios never really materialize.

    Being in the middle is not exactly something you'd want to hear either.

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    facci would not have said 100,000 if that was a long shot

    worst case scenario is a couple millions

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    I was going to say that the globalism genie can't be stuffed back in the lamp, that the kind of autarky MP is talking about is unlikely and completely untenable, but then something occurred to me.

    If COVID-19 comes back for seconds and thirds like the 1918 flu, and if the financial system collapses a la 1929 (debt deflation spiral) the recession will be a long one, resulting in real scarcity in the global north. Pestilence will be a hindrance to international commerce and a spur to isolation; poverty in several countries will lead to social unrest and external enemies will be blamed to take the heat off politicians at home.

    At the risk of sounding like hater, in that highly speculative situation -- not the present one -- global war might be the only tenable path to faster economic development (and relative industrial self-sufficiency) while relieving internal unrest in many countries at once.

    I don't think this is a likely scenario, just trying to think of how the US might decouple from international finance and global supply chains at the same time.

    Synchronized pestilence, global depression and WWIII might do the trick.
    I agree it would require an re-alignment of world power. I'm not sold it's going to happen anytime soon. We're much different as a society and world as we were back then.

    Also, changing of the guard doesn't necessarily mean better than what we have.

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    The outbreaks are all starting to pop now.

    I'm amazed at how poor the data is. I get that health professionals are busy, but the states should all have EM professions and data professionals that can step in on the function of delivering data that actually produces clear analysis.

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    I agree it would require an re-alignment of world power. I'm not sold it's going to happen anytime soon. We're much different as a society and world as we were back then.

    Also, changing of the guard doesn't necessarily mean better than what we have.
    Change is amoral, like economics. Cares nothing for people.

    Short of total annihilation things can always get worse.

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    facci would not have said 100,000 if that was a long shot

    worst case scenario is a couple millions

    At this current rate a few million infected and 100,000 dead isnt a stretch

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    Change is amoral, like economics. Cares nothing for people.

    Short of total annihilation things can always get worse.
    If we keep bailing out the status quo, we deserve everything we get.

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    Russia says 40% of their ventilator cases are ppl under 40 yrs old

    either the “this is an old ppl disease” is fake news or this thing is mutating
    It could be other things besides your "either or".

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    To what end? Put pressure on China to do things it won't do anyway?

    Seems like we're just looping back around for the most part.
    This show is going to cost the world a fortune and it’s because Asian countries, primarily China, didn’t clean up their wet markets. If the worlds governments are stupid enough to endure this disaster and not do anything to prevent the next one, like put tariff on countries out their wazoos if they don’t clean up their , then they deserve to get hit with the next panepedemic that kills their people and destroys their economies.

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    facci would not have said 100,000 if that was a long shot

    worst case scenario is a couple millions
    100k is one of the best case scenarios imo

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    "If we don't mitigate to the extent we're trying to, you can reach those numbers. You can make a big soundbite about it but what we're trying to do is not let that happen. So instead of focusing on the upper or the lower we're trying to focus on pushing it all the way down. Trying to not prematurely undo all the mitigation. " - Fauci


    "Dr. Fauci stands by 100,000 death predictions." - CNN

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    Usa ,meet corona virus

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    "If we don't mitigate to the extent we're trying to, you can reach those numbers. You can make a big soundbite about it but what we're trying to do is not let that happen. So instead of focusing on the upper or the lower we're trying to focus on pushing it all the way down. Trying to not prematurely undo all the mitigation. " - Fauci

    "Dr. Fauci stands by 100,000 death predictions." - CNN
    USA today is running with 200,000... because, why not?

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    This show is going to cost the world a fortune and it’s because Asian countries, primarily China, didn’t clean up their wet markets. If the worlds governments are stupid enough to endure this disaster and not do anything to prevent the next one, like put tariff on countries out their wazoos if they don’t clean up their , then they deserve to get hit with the next panepedemic that kills their people and destroys their economies.
    I hope Americans feel that kind of righteous zeal when it comes to the failings of our own governments. They are much easier to change.

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