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Assuming that figure turns out to be correct, we could be looking at ~250,000 deaths in the US during the next 12 months.
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Assuming that figure turns out to be correct, we could be looking at ~250,000 deaths in the US during the next 12 months.
I would expect higher rates at the beginning as the sickest come in.
By the time this goes pandemic and is history the rates won’t be near this high as we will have more accurate and yes, modeled numbers as not everyone will come in.
A small town in the US might have 1 person come in, tested, and die and it’s 100% mortality for that town.
This does not look like the Spanish flu.
Edit:
Found in WaPo 2 % should be considered high but not in severe cases and preliminary.
No one knows exactly how or why the novel coronavirus leads to death in just a small percentage of patients — about 2 percentof those infected, according to preliminary numbers.
Last edited by pgardn; 03-02-2020 at 10:40 AM.
8:10 am: San Antonio mayor blasts the CDC for mistakenly releasing quarantined patient
Mayor Ron Nirenberg blasted the the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for mistakenly releasing a COVID-19 patient who was quarantined near San Antonio, saying it was unacceptable. “We will hold the CDC accountable to providing complete transparency for the public,” Nirenberg said in a statement Sunday. “This situation is exactly why we have been asking for federal officials to accept the guidance of our medical community.” —Kopecki
Whoa.
Sounds like our medical people told the mayor they were not keeping track properly.
‘It’s complete chaos’:
Top Trump aides admit White House is botching the coronavirus response
White House officials speaking on the condition of remaining anonymous have
confessed ... Donald Trump’s administration is reeling as officials scramble to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.
President Donald Trump botched identifying the first victim of the virus in the U.S. during his Saturday press conference
while also playing down the importance of another person infected in California —
which the report notes is emblematic of the disarray in the administration.
the administration’s slapdash and often misleading attempts to contain not just the virus,
but also potential political damage from the outbreak —
which has tanked financial markets,
slowed global commerce and
killed some 3,000 people worldwide
the administration struggled to cope with the fallout from the crisis —
shaking up and centralizing its coronavirus response team under the leadership of Vice President Pence,
floating plans to stabilize the markets and
publicly seeking to minimize the threat posed by the potential pandemic.”
the White House is “…scrambling to gain control of a rudderless response
defined by bureaucratic infighting, confusion and misinformation. ”
“It’s complete chaos. Everyone is just trying to get a handle on what the is going on.”
Trump decided to tap Vice President Mike Pence
c because “… bringing in a person from outside the administration might be seen as a failure —
and wondering whether such a person would be loyal to him,
driven by a potent combination of a lack of leadership and structure inside the White House,
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/its...re-a-disaster/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...470_story.html
That's not politicizing the virus, snowflake.
Do you believe Trump when he says the virus cases in the US will "fall to zero" soon?
This er lies about everything, yet you keep shielding for him.
This time, it isn't the size of his rallies, or inaugural crowd. People will be dying, based on what he says or does say. Credibility matters. He has none.
How many deaths from their lies/incompetence are acceptable to you?
Religion poisons everything.
Authoritarian responses to virus, i.e. lying to the public, have consequences. Funny that the lies are ok, as long as it is Trump doing it... the "magic R" makes everything ok for the brainwashed faithful. Dear Leader has everything under control.
smh.
I suspect the actual death rate is lower than the reports suggest. The overall number of people that will get it, and show no symptoms, as well as the number of people who never get tested and have just mild symptoms suggest the actual mortality rate is lower.
Once it really affects a large number of people, in the US where the data is better and more reliable, the figures will get more accurate. Barring the administration trying to massage the numbers to make the Dear Leader look better of course. I wouldn't put it past them. Luckily there are still people of integrity left despite the best efforts of the kleptocracy's leadership.
Taking the photo
making sammiches.
CDC cancels press availability, scrubs testing information and deaths from its website, like one does now to please the boss, who doesn't like bad news.
it never happened. move along to next Trump rally
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/02/seat...otal-to-5.html
Coronavirus motel in development at the Spurs future home...
“At some point, we’re going to be shifting our approach from counting every case to focusing on outbreaks, perhaps cases that occur at hospitals,” Duchin said, “and we won’t be able to do the kind of individual case follow up and case management that we’re doing early on during this so called containment phase of the epidemic.”
Seattle-area officials are setting up a coronavirus hotline and looking to buy a motel to convert into a quarantine facility.
china builds 2 hospitals in 1 week
we rent out a motel
They eat chloroquine like it's candy over there.
hey, at least that motel has other viruses to battle it out with Covid19...
we rent out a motel
Wakanda doctors beyond our comprehension
Locusts eating the covid19?
Now 6 dead on the West Coast. Repugs rejoice
‘This is the coverup’: CDC website stops reporting number of COVID-19 virus tests
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/this-is-the-coverup-cdc-website-stops-reporting-number-of-covid-19-virus-tests/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3851
They did that a couple weeks ago. Pretty sure I posted it on one of these threads.
good advice
(GOOD ADVICE REGARDING CORONAVIRUS ) February 26, 2020
As some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.
The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.
Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:
1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.
2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.
3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.
4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.
5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.
6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.
7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!
What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:
1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.
Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon.
This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.
2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.
3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.
4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.
I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this (edited: animal)-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it.
Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.
I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share.
Good luck to all of us!
James Robb, MD FCAP
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Most intelligent part tbh
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