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    Damn that's on the southeast side. I'm like 5-10 mins from there. Been there a bunch of times back when I was a pizza delivery driver.
    Me too fkla....right by mccreless mall

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    yeah,hearing dallas,and houstons numbers are rising . abbott is still hesitant about putting tighter measures
    red/slave/Confederate states are going with Trash and played down Dem hoax.

    FL finally locked down, but is exempting churches so 1000s can Praise The Lord and get infected.

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    Not as many deaths coming from NY today. NJ, California and other states are starting to get up there in numbers now.
    Ugh. I'm seeing 745 per here.

    https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

    But that said, REMEMBER the lag. That is when the deaths were reported, not when they necessarily occurred. Cases who died two weeks ago might be just figuring into the stats today. Data has been pretty bad throughout all this.

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    Ugh. I'm seeing 745 per here.

    https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

    But that said, REMEMBER the lag. That is when the deaths were reported, not when they necessarily occurred. Cases who died two weeks ago might be just figuring into the stats today. Data has been pretty bad throughout all this.
    worldometer showing 680 (but they go by GMT for start of the day, i dont know what that other site uses)

    but yes, the reporting/figures isn't necessarily reliable on a day to day basis, for the reason you described. i dont blame them, these hospitals care more about getting done than making sure they are relaying death figures neatly and accurately

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    Jesus, what an en led in' populace we have.



    Seeing a lot of this sentiment on Wingnut twitter. "Our freedumbs." What's happening now isn't unprecedented in American history. We responded to the Spanish Flu the exact same way, allowing states and municipalities to issue quarantine/stay-at-home orders per their discretion. Example, during the Spanish Flu, St. Louis locked down, while Philly did the "freedumbs" thing. Results.



    All pandemics follow the same path. There's no "conspiracy" or "insidious Democrat/Communist plot to take over Murrica." These s just can't handle that the fat and happy life has to be on hold for a bit. What in' babies. All you have to do is stay home and sit on your ass.

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    Jesus, what an en led in' populace we have.



    Seeing a lot of this sentiment on Wingnut twitter. "Our freedumbs." What's happening now isn't unprecedented in American history. We responded to the Spanish Flu the exact same way, allowing states and municipalities to issue quarantine/stay-at-home orders per their discretion. Example, during the Spanish Flu, St. Louis locked down, while Philly did the "freedumbs" thing. Results.



    All pandemics follow the same path. There's no "conspiracy" or "insidious Democrat/Communist plot to take over Murrica." These s just can't handle that the fat and happy life has to be on hold for a bit. What in' babies. All you have to do is stay home and sit on your ass.
    i dont get it either. Would i rather stay home and hope for the best? or keep risking my health,and others by going out continuously!?

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    red/slave/Confederate states are going with Trash and played down Dem hoax.

    FL finally locked down, but is exempting churches so 1000s can Praise The Lord and get infected.
    No sympathy. None.

    You think Jesus is that ing important, you don't deserve a hospital bed. Pray the virus away, see how that works out.

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    No sympathy. None.

    You think Jesus is that ing important, you don't deserve a hospital bed. Pray the virus away, see how that works out.
    They'll still get the beds though, just like those heads from the cruise ship in Ft Lauderdale.

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    i dont get it either. Would i rather stay home and hope for the best? or keep risking my health,and others by going out continuously!?
    I think Wingnuts want this to be over ASAP because they fear the economic toll of the pandemic will hurt their idol's reelection chances. Many wingnuts are screaming "open up the country!" right now. You can resurrect economies, you can't resurrect lives. Of course the wingnut rebuttal to this is that all the suicide, substance abuse, stress, etc, etc of the economic toll will cause more deaths than the virus, and there's a point to that, but the economy isn't just going to bounce back instantly when we "reopen." I feel if we opened up, we get more deaths from the virus and the same amount of deaths from those other factors. Again, the economy isn't just going to bounce back until we get a vaccine and a herd immunity.

    These idiots think if you reopened America, that legions of people are going to resume the same consumer behavior they had before. No way. Not many people will be comfortable in crammed public spaces (restaurants, movie theaters, clubs, casinos, sporting events etc, etc) for a while.

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    i dont get it either. Would i rather stay home and hope for the best? or keep risking my health,and others by going out continuously!?
    As virus takes hold, resistance to stay-at-home orders remains widespread —

    exposing political and social rifts

    government and private-sector leaders across a large swath of the country

    remain defiant that

    the devastation unfolding in New York and other seemingly faraway cities should not curtail life in their own communities.


    skeptics have been slow to acknowledge the science behind the spread of the novel coronavirus.

    politicians took heed of demands from the business community,

    adamance about local autonomy was pronounced.

    it was religious authority that mattered.

    "we can all rest in knowing that God is in control" chief executive of the craft store chain Hobby Lobby

    a group of governors in the South and the Great Plains — largely Republican-led states — risk acting too late.

    “Part of the problem is just reluctance to wrap your head around the fact that the numbers could get that bad that fast,”

    “It’s almost a different approach, waiting to know it’s bad. I’m afraid that by the time they have reports of cases, it’s already too late.”

    “We needed to be where we are now three weeks ago,”

    about a dozen states without sweeping restrictions limiting travel to essential needs.

    how decisive Tuesday’s White House briefing was to their thinking, as Trump struck a newly solemn tone and his advisers unveiled grim projections even with best-case mitigation efforts. months late! Trash has the Best Delay, Best Brain, Best Words

    Kemp said he learned Tuesday that the virus was “transmitting before people see signs.” knowledge that is WEEKS OLD

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=nl_tyh&wpmk=1

    Business wants you back to work, too bad if you die

    God has you in His Whole Wide World Hands, too bad if you die




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    This country was ed before this pandemic, but this disaster definitely is like hitting the skip ahead 10 seconds button a few times.

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    This country was ed before this pandemic, but this disaster definitely is like hitting the skip ahead 10 seconds button a few times.
    30k was imminent, mono. 160 million Americans were working, all getting a paycheck.

    We'll be fortunate if 100 million of that amount doesn't end up on a bread line.
    Yes, we have and have installed some attractive safeguards, but, if this thing goes haywire we'll know what ed is.

    This is the first time in my 60+ years where we ain't sure. We're talking big, but, we ain't sure & you can see it.

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    Make no mistake, mainstream Dems are sneaky heels, but the republican party and "the base" operates on a completely different level of heel. They'll hold back "progress" back in this regard per usual. I'm already seeing them start to hedge on wingnut twitter. First, it was, "nothing but a little flu. Only 30 deaths. Why are we freakin out!" Now it's, "Eh, 8000 deaths, but we have to ask how many died from Covid vs. with Covid?" So no matter the death toll, they have a minimizing excuse and thus will deflect to their conspiracy nonsense.

    On the other hand, I can see mainstream Dems shutting down debate of the China problem with cries of "racism." So neither the healthcare/preparedness issue will be solved (cuz socialism) or the China problem be solved (cuz racism).

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    30k was imminent, mono. 160 million Americans were working, all getting a paycheck.

    We'll be fortunate if 100 million of that amount doesn't end up on a bread line.
    Yes, we have and have installed some attractive safeguards, but, if this thing goes haywire we'll know what ed is.

    This is the first time in my 60+ years where we ain't sure. We're talking big, but, we ain't sure & you can see it.
    We'll be fine, just have to take it on the chin for about a year or more, Cub. The unemployment thing was always going to happen, shutdown or no shutdown, because businesses that rely on some sort of crowd (bars, restaurants, clubs, theaters, casinos, etc) were going to take a hit regardless. People aren't going to want to go out and risk catching this bug. And yes, it's contagious. We don't have herd immunity plus vaccine. Pretty much every American will get it at some point (could take 10 years). We don't collectively fear the flu like this because we have vaccine, anti-viral treatments, and a degree of herd immunity.

    But in a year, that herd immunity will be built up enough (say, 30 million Americans), the vaccine will soon follow, and there will be proven anti-virals that work, and THEN this will basically be the flu (I do believe mortality is around flu levels when all the data gets in).

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    Thought this article was interesting because I haven't seen much stuff focused on the hospitals - especially not here in TX.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-tell-n1175291

    Hospitals here show a surge much greater than the actual test numbers but they're still holding out well. Hope we continue to see our healthcare here keep pace.

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    Colorado governor ordered a lock down and now just enacted a mandatory state wide mask requirement. Why is the Texas governor such a lame incompetent?

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    We'll be fine, just have to take it on the chin for about a year or more, Cub. The unemployment thing was always going to happen, shutdown or no shutdown, because businesses that rely on some sort of crowd (bars, restaurants, clubs, theaters, casinos, etc) were going to take a hit regardless. People aren't going to want to go out and risk catching this bug. And yes, it's contagious. We don't have herd immunity plus vaccine. Pretty much every American will get it at some point (could take 10 years). We don't collectively fear the flu like this because we have vaccine, anti-viral treatments, and a degree of herd immunity.

    But in a year, that herd immunity will be built up enough (say, 30 million Americans), the vaccine will soon follow, and there will be proven anti-virals that work, and THEN this will basically be the flu (I do believe mortality is around flu levels when all the data gets in).
    Anyone who thinks taht we weren't going to take an even bigger economic hit if our healthcare system completely collapsed under the weight of this thing is idiotic. Its so frustrating that the public debate is dominated not by disagreements on the details but disagreements on ing reality.

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    Colorado governor ordered a lock down and now just enacted a mandatory state wide mask requirement. Why is the Texas governor such a lame incompetent?
    We're likely going to make some masks this weekend but man people are going to have a hard time getting them.

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    30k was imminent, mono. 160 million Americans were working, all getting a paycheck.

    We'll be fortunate if 100 million of that amount doesn't end up on a bread line.
    Yes, we have and have installed some attractive safeguards, but, if this thing goes haywire we'll know what ed is.

    This is the first time in my 60+ years where we ain't sure. We're talking big, but, we ain't sure & you can see it.
    “Apathetic bloody planet, I’ve no sympathy at all”

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    Nations with Mandatory TB Vaccines Show Fewer Coronavirus Deaths
    New study finds a correlation, but clinical trials are still in progress

    Countries with mandatory policies to vaccinate against tuberculosis register fewer coronavirus deaths than countries that don’t have those policies, a new study has found.

    The preliminary study posted on medRxiv, a site for unpublished medical research, finds a correlation between countries that require citizens to get the bacillus Calmette-Guerin (BCG) vaccine and those showing fewer number of confirmed cases and deaths from Covid-19. Though only a correlation, clinicians in at least six countries are running trials that involve giving frontline health workers and elderly people the BCG vaccine to see whether it can indeed provide some level of protection against the new coronavirus.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ate-tb-vaccine

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    We're likely going to make some masks this weekend but man people are going to have a hard time getting them.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/home...-better-2020-4

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    We'll be fine, just have to take it on the chin for about a year or more, Cub. The unemployment thing was always going to happen, shutdown or no shutdown, because businesses that rely on some sort of crowd (bars, restaurants, clubs, theaters, casinos, etc) were going to take a hit regardless. People aren't going to want to go out and risk catching this bug. And yes, it's contagious. We don't have herd immunity plus vaccine. Pretty much every American will get it at some point (could take 10 years). We don't collectively fear the flu like this because we have vaccine, anti-viral treatments, and a degree of herd immunity.

    But in a year, that herd immunity will be built up enough (say, 30 million Americans), the vaccine will soon follow, and there will be proven anti-virals that work, and THEN this will basically be the flu (I do believe mortality is around flu levels when all the data gets in).
    I read that herd immunity only comes into play after 50%+ of the population has gotten and recovered from the disease. That'd be ~150 million americans... so, really can't rely on that at this time.

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    Will hold true if Trump is not beat.

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    Read that something like 98% of the country is on stay at home orders.

    I think it's time to make that mandatory nation wide.

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