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    And we have no results for anything like that.
    I know docs who are seeing results

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    I know docs who are seeing results
    Compared to what?

    I'll wait for the trials with controls.

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    I know docs who are seeing results
    The only real scientific way to do this is handing out placebos vs not placebos, and you have to be a royal asshole to hand out placebos right now.

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    I know we're not out of the woods yet, but I'm pretty proud with a number of States... California containment has been remarkable vis a vis the population, Oregon shipping out ventilators to NYC is what America is all about, etc.

    Not to mention 10s of thousands of volunteer health professionals who went to NY, many out of retirement. That's some brave , tbh.

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    Not to mention 10s of thousands of volunteer health professionals who went to NY, many out of retirement. That's some brave , tbh.
    I've said it before, health professionals in the frontlines are the real heroes here.

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    I know docs who are seeing results

    What specific results d?

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    The only real scientific way to do this is handing out placebos vs not placebos, and you have to be a royal asshole to hand out placebos right now.

    But that's the only way to know that it's better than placebo.

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    But that's the only way to know that it's better than placebo.
    It's the only way to discern if it's the drug making a positive effect or the recoveries have to do with a different factor (genetics, personal immune system, previous vaccinations, etc).

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    What specific results d?
    Much quicker recovery than average and very few requiring hospital. But it has to be given before patients have severe complications.

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    It's the same in a lot of states... not to mention a lot of people depend on that drug too for other diseases. There's undeniably a shortage, as it's expected in such a crisis situation.
    lupus women with active disease depend on it and are having difficulty finding it.

    It's both and anti-viral and immuno-suppressant, the latter being why lupus victims depend on it.

    ===============

    Researchers Warn Possible Coronavirus Treatment Hydroxychloroquine

    May Be Toxic When Combined With Diabetes Drug


    30-40% of mice treated with a combination of HCQ or CQ and diabetes drug metformin, died.

    Treatment with the same dose of either drug alone had no effect on the survival of the mice.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2020/04/05/researchers-warn-that-covid-19-treatment-touted-by-trump-may-be-toxic-when-combined-with-diabetes-drug/#36604ed155f8

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    Novartis, Mylan and Teva to supply tens of millions of chloroquine tablets to fight COVID-19

    https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/...ine-tablets-to



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    Like I said before, we've already been giving hydroxychloroquine to COVID patients here in the US for a few weeks now. Is it helping? I have no idea.

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    Chris is our finest soldier.

    God bless you, Chris.

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    I know docs who are seeing results
    Oh an anecdote

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    Like I said before, we've already been giving hydroxychloroquine to COVID patients here in the US for a few weeks now. Is it helping? I have no idea.

    They said they were in ny,and then weve heard nothing,but more deaths coming, and usa prepares for worst weeks ahead...wish wed know if these treatments were helping improve patients outlooks here

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    We'll get through it, bro. Spanish Flu was FAR worse.

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    Like I said before, we've already been giving hydroxychloroquine to COVID patients here in the US for a few weeks now. Is it helping? I have no idea.
    The old man loves to throw it in their face during these Pressers. He knows it bugs 'em no end. He's ball buster without a lot of fanfare. I bust balls, but, I'm a loud mouth. Not him, he does it stealthily. Not on purpose, I don't think. It's just his way, his natural way.

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    We'll get through it, bro. Spanish Flu was FAR worse.


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    Chump -- if you get it, you'll probably be fine with Tylenol and Gatorade.

    I know you'd never take some medicine that drumpf mentioned.

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    If I had to place a bet on a treatment I’d go with Roche’s Actemra (tocilizumab). It may be approved as early as this summer to treat COVID-19, according to the FDA. The drug is already approved in the U.S. for rheumatoid arthritis. The company began a Phase III trial of the drug plus standard-of-care in hospitalized patients with COVID-19 pneumonia about two weeks ago. The drug is an immunosuppresive which targets cytokine release syndrome. I think hydoxychloroquine will be found relatively ineffective, just getting a lot of hype because of Dr. Trash.

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    The old man loves to throw it in their face during these Pressers. He knows it bugs 'em no end. He's ball buster without a lot of fanfare. I bust balls, but, I'm a loud mouth. Not him, he does it stealthily. Not on purpose, I don't think. It's just his way, his natural way.
    The are you talking about? Go take your Alzheimer's medication and watch some Jeopardy.

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    If I had to place a bet on a treatment I’d go with Roche’s Actemra (tocilizumab). It may be approved as early as this summer to treat COVID-19, according to the FDA. The drug is already approved in the U.S. for rheumatoid arthritis. The company began a Phase III trial of the drug plus standard-of-care in hospitalized patients with COVID-19 pneumonia about two weeks ago. The drug is an immunosuppresive which targets cytokine release syndrome. I think hydoxychloroquine will be found relatively ineffective, just getting a lot of hype because of Dr. Trash.
    Mother, picky. Mother!!!

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    The are you talking about? Go take your Alzheimer's medication and watch some Jeopardy.
    I'm babbling, yes.

    I got cabin fever.

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    Chump -- if you get it, you'll probably be fine with Tylenol and Gatorade.

    I know you'd never take some medicine that drumpf mentioned.
    Don't be a , Darrin.

    I'm sorry the President you support is a miserable failure and has made you buy into his magical thinking after and because of his miserable failure. I hope it works. There is currently no proof it works.

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