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What if you got in your car to go to McDonald's and got in a tragic wreck that killed you? Do you think that was a good idea?
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What if you got in your car to go to McDonald's and got in a tragic wreck that killed you? Do you think that was a good idea?
So your going with let the young people get infected.
Before testing.
That way when the young people who get their groceries, visit their parents, go back to their children who are not in school...
So just get as many young people infected as possible.
GB wanted to try this.
It failed early enough so they pulled back.
Posting stuff doesn't mean anything.
I didn't latch on to anything. I've posted something.
What is my "confirmation bias"? At what point have I've downplayed this virus?
Most of mid's response is countering "implications" that I disagree with.
In the future spare me of your childish input.
I thought we discussed this over a month ago. We already know that many who get sick were doing everything right, but were infected by those who brought it home. This is why this is likely to fail at some point without the massive increase in testing AND a robust, working tracking system.
Not sure why some still don't get this yet.
I didn't suggest anything. I pointed out the irrelevance of pointing out "I'm sure these old workers are itching to get back to work" in response to "let young people get back to work".
In such a scenario the elderly are not supposed to come in contact with their children and grandchildren that are not isolated.
GB did herd immunity from what I've seen but I could be wrong. This isn't herd immunity. Well it is but it's controlled herd immunity.
Thailand records it's first case of Covid contracted from a dead body.
If they live with people going out all the time then they are not "doing everything right".
Okay. They should move out on the spot.
More out of touch comments from Nate.
As previously mentioned, without mass testing and social tracing, it isn't safe to send even "just the young folks" back to work.
Do you think adequate testing and social tracing will be in place in two weeks?
If so, what makes you think so?
Those dumb, immunocompromised/ at risk need to just lift themselves up by their bootstraps and just move out if they live with an essential worker.
I don't get the "just the young folks back to work" emphasis. If we send young people back to work without adequate testing/tracing, we put everyone in danger again, because the young are the most likely to be asymptomatic.
All it takes is one infected object at home after catching it on your commute back, for example. Even Cuomo just said this has the potential to fail in a week without the right systems in place first.
It isn't realistic to place blame on people who get sick while at home.
Trash/Miller concentrations will be massacred with C19
'HELP WE MATTER 2': First inmate dies of COVID-19 at D.C. facility while Chicago jail cases spiral
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/13/1936831/--HELP-WE-MATTER-2-First-inmate-dies-of-COVID-19-at-D-C-facility-while-Chicago-jail-cases-spiral?detail=emaildkre
btw, a sailor on Roosevelt died from C19, 100s more infected, Trash fired the ship's captain for asking for help.
No. We are not trying this strategy currently so most haven't given it any thought. One major step would be self segregating with friends and family over a certain age. There are many other tactics that can be taken. Admittedly the strategy is difficult but it actually works long-term and what we are currently doing doesn't work.
No its not controlled.
Thats the point.
You think that its controlled because you are letting young people go to work (but without any idea if they carry the virus.)
I want to people back to work as badly as any Trump supporter like you.
But these ideas you are throwing out already have a high probability of NOT working. And we know why.
In a perfect world at present everyone would be tested and tracked (a problem in itself; some sort of anonymity)
We would know who needs to stay home and quarantined.
Then we await a vaccine (that is effective)
But you just said those who got sick at home weren't doing everything right. You want to place blame without a realistic strategy in place, or a system that actually makes the strategy work.
Here's the thing, letting young people get back to work won't save the economy or even boost it in any meaningful way. A huge portion of the workforce is over 40, and people over 40 in the US aren't in the best of shape. So I'm unsure of what "letting the young and healthy" getting back to work is supposed to achieve? Most of them are probably already working, either in essential grocery, fast food, healthcare jobs, or can work from home, since younger people tend to have jobs in tech. Young people also feature heavily in food service jobs, but even if "we opened up," that sector isn't going to do anywhere near pre-Covid business since no one will be comfortable crowding restaurants, bars and cafes for awhile.
The path to a wholesale getting back to work is test, test, test and knowing the particulars of this virus down to its last atom. If we find out it has a mortality and hospitalization rate around flu levels and if it's confirmed immunity is guaranteed after getting it, then we can confidently apply a set of strategies to reopen commerce. People with immunity can get back to work and the typical consumer activity of shopping, eating at restaurants, going to bars, theaters, etc. If we find out the virus is no more dangerous than the flu, then people will be comfortable in those crowded social settings. But we don't know much right now.
I agree we should increase our testing ability first. I doubt we'll have the capabilities in two weeks because testing capacity has stalled. More information from antibody studies is probably the best you'll get in two weeks.
We don't have enough of the anti-body tests either.
For what, Nathan? As soon as you test someone negative "he'd" have to live in an isolated room until the remainder of the 350 Americans tested negative. We'd need in excess of 350 million such rooms.
You ain't gonna have no more take-out, no more drive-thru, no more bending over the old lady once a day. No more.
Finally some logic from you. I'm so proud, Cubs.
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"We don't have enough of..."
Blah, blah, blah, you in' cry baby, you. Whiner!!!
addendum:::I didn't mean it. I thought you were clammy.
Uh, oh, I just slammed you and I come and see you citing me.
SOB!!!
Thanks a lot. That hurt, but I'm still on the high from a sensible post from ya', so I'll let it go this time.
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