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    Which is what?

    Show me the strategy Trump came up with and implemented.
    Didnt you watch that Rose Garden presentation- ONE MONTH AGO?

    Trump and Pence DECLARED

    that Walmart would have drive thru parking lot testing all over the USA!
    Target would have rapid testing at every target location....


    tests were ramping up by the MILLIONS!

    Private companies were lining up in UNPRECEDENTED fashion - NEVER before seen in history!!!


    ONE month ago


    so just run to your nearest walmart parking lot and wait, silly!

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    Posting stuff doesn't mean anything.

    I didn't latch on to anything. I've posted something.

    What is my "confirmation bias"? At what point have I've downplayed this virus?

    Most of mid's response is countering "implications" that I disagree with.

    In the future spare me of your childish input.
    When you post something, without comment, and it is bad, really, obviously, painfully, bad, and you don't offer a comment to that effect, it is indistinguishable from you not knowing how bad it is.

    You have to own your posts.

    Put on your big boy pants, man up and own it.

    You posted something you thought looked good, and supported what you think is your Dear Leader's narrative. It failed.

    Own it, quit deflecting and move on.

    or better yet, offer your own critique. Do some ing work for once.

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    Data does not support that. Every place that has locked down has seen a very predictable flattening of the curve, with places that haven't seen the trend upwards.

    Not even really a debate.

    conservatives trying to have their own truth. Reality gonna -slap the lot of you. Again.
    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/t...EL+FRA+SWE+GBR

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    "For the sake of debate, so the President cannot "re-open" states, but it is entirely his fault that he didn’t perform each individual governor’s job of shutting them down, that’s the logic we’re going with this week."
    - D. Loesch

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    americans are so stupid

    thousand deaths a day and no good solution and they argue about who has a bigger to open up business

    stupid s

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    I can't believe there are some still arguing this. Of course, for Spurstalk, it's the usual suspects
    The shape of things to come:

    If the death toll is lower after isolation- it proves we didn't need to isolate!
    One month after that:

    Oh no! A second wave of corona virus is killing thousands more!
    Who could have possibly forseen this?
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    Last edited by RandomGuy; 04-14-2020 at 02:32 PM.

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    Trump

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    Eyup. Saw it in the really good article you posted. The same one where you said this:

    Too early to compare Sweden's response until Norway and Denmark come out of lock down and we see if they e again or not. Decent read at the link.

    https://unherd.com/2020/04/jury-stil...irus-strategy/

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    yikes

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    Here's the thing, letting young people get back to work won't save the economy or even boost it in any meaningful way. A huge portion of the workforce is over 40, and people over 40 in the US aren't in the best of shape. So I'm unsure of what "letting the young and healthy" getting back to work is supposed to achieve? Most of them are probably already working, either in essential grocery, fast food, healthcare jobs, or can work from home, since younger people tend to have jobs in tech. Young people also feature heavily in food service jobs, but even if "we opened up," that sector isn't going to do anywhere near pre-Covid business since no one will be comfortable crowding restaurants, bars and cafes for awhile.

    The path to a wholesale getting back to work is test, test, test and knowing the particulars of this virus down to its last atom. If we find out it has a mortality and hospitalization rate around flu levels and if it's confirmed immunity is guaranteed after getting it, then we can confidently apply a set of strategies to reopen commerce. People with immunity can get back to work and the typical consumer activity of shopping, eating at restaurants, going to bars, theaters, etc. If we find out the virus is no more dangerous than the flu, then people will be comfortable in those crowded social settings. But we don't know much right now.
    The flu generally does not leave permanent scarring on the lungs. That would seem to imply it is vastly worse, because even those that technically survive the first round, could die decades earlier from the lasting complications.

    That is the part that scares ME.

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    "For the sake of debate, so the President cannot "re-open" states, but it is entirely his fault that he didn’t perform each individual governor’s job of shutting them down, that’s the logic we’re going with this week."
    - D. Loesch
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    Trump couldn't even make a recommendation much less lead.

    Do you think Trump has the absolute authority to open states, Qhris?

    Yes or no.

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    The flu generally does not leave permanent scarring on the lungs. That would seem to imply it is vastly worse, because even those that technically survive the first round, could die decades earlier from the lasting complications.

    That is the part that scares ME.
    Also, many are seeing heart damage as well.

    Sucks...

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    Even if it's true, which I won't believe until nonconspiracy sources cover it, it doesn't mitigate Trump's failure at all. Sorry.

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    lol @ ter fights

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    Trump couldn't even make a recommendation much less lead.

    Do you think Trump has the absolute authority to open states, Qhris?

    Yes or no.
    In the context of emergency powers of the executive branch governing the interstate economy, the President enjoys plenary power compared to the Governors.

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    In the context of emergency powers of the executive branch governing the interstate economy, the President enjoys plenary power compared to the Governors.
    Really?

    Where is that plenary power defined?

    And this doesn't affect intrastate economies? How are they separated?

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    You're right. Most of them have better capabilities, especially the ones with universal health insurance, and non-free-market greed restricted excess hospital capacity, like, say, Germany.

    Socialism is the answer here. Big bad logical pooling of risk. This whole episode is laying bare all the gaping sores of the US free market failures when it comes to health care and health insurance.

    Suck it.
    Socialist healthcare isn't a noteworthy tactic to execute this strategy. But thanks for trying ram agenda into every conversation.

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    Socialist healthcare isn't a noteworthy tactic to execute this strategy. But thanks for trying ram agenda into every conversation.
    You never said what Trump's announced strategy is.

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    The only power he has is to compel federal workers to ignore local/state ordinances and get back to work... he lacks any police power authority in states, thus why he can't manhandle local PD to work with ICE, for example.

    Same here, his authority is only as good as he's able to enforce it.

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    It's my armchair understanding of genetically engineered viruses that they share/publish the molecular structure piece meal as studies, most bio labs share all this kinda info amongst themselves and that the sequencing of the current corona virus would have already revealed multiple red flags of "re-used backbone structures" (for lack of a better term) suggesting it was engineered.

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