Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

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...ain't nothing wrong with using what works.

Polls are saying otherwise. The fat man is floundering.

[boutons_deux]

I liked the one who actually pointed out that he did all in February.

Maggie H says Trash has been extremely angry in his daily BULL sessions this week and she supposes it is because of NYT's total devastation of Trash for his delay, lies, misleadings, inaction, blaming everyone else, etc.

[Winehole23]

New hot spot: South Dakota

South Dakota’s coronavirus cases have begun to soar after its governor steadfastly refused to mandate a quarantine.

The number of confirmed cases in the state has risen from 129 to 988 since April 1 — when Gov. Kristi Noem criticized the “draconian measures” of social distancing to stop the spread of the virus in her state.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/14/corona...th-dakota/amp/

[RandomGuy]

It's the INCONSISTENCY - one shouldn't say "YES, HE MUST" one way and then turn around and say "NO, HE CAN'T" the other way.

Strawman.

What is the current federal guidance for states?

What is the difference between guidance and a compulsory decree?

[RandomGuy]

New hot spot: South Dakota

https://nypost.com/2020/04/14/corona...th-dakota/amp/

Saw that. It's gonna get bad. They have not really taken any steps to mitigate to my knowledge.

[Winehole23]

*Something* is causing people to die at home in greater than usual numbers in several cities.

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...n-reported/amp

[hater]

a group of Swedish scientists say Sweden will be the next Italy

something to watch closely tbqh

[Thread]

Polls are saying otherwise. The fat man is floundering.

As long as he doesn't founder it's okay.

[baseline bum]

a group of Swedish scientists say Sweden will be the next Italy

something to watch closely tbqh

Hopefully not the next US tho

[mrsmaalox]

Every single thing I have made from Bayless' cookbooks has been amazing. mrsmaalox got me turned on to his recipes and other than the mole, they're pretty easy to make on top of being outstanding.

I just realized I can get his Authentic Mexican eBook through Prime for free. I grew up cooking just about everything Mexican but new recipes never hurt. Gonna check it out.

Mexico One Plate At A Time is my bible. Its a good mix of traditional and contemporary recipes. Every traditional recipe I’ve cooked tastes exactly like what I remember from my grandma’s kitchen 👍 If you follow him on FB, every day at noon he’s doing live pandemic demos of his most popular recipes. Its been a bright spot for me during these dull times

[baseline bum]

Mexico One Plate At A Time is my bible. Its a good mix of traditional and contemporary recipes. Every traditional recipe I’ve cooked tastes exactly like what I remember from my grandma’s kitchen �� If you follow him on FB, every day at noon he’s doing live pandemic demos of his most popular recipes. Its been a bright spot for me during these dull times

He has been releasing a ton of videos on youtube too lately. Probably the same ones I'd guess.

[DarrinS]

How will this compare to last pandemics?

H2N2 1957
1.1 million deaths worldwide and 116,000 in the United States



H3N2 1968
1 million deaths worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States

[DarrinS]

How will this compare to last pandemics?

H2N2 1957
1.1 million deaths worldwide and 116,000 in the United States



H3N2 1968
1 million deaths worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States

In terms of U.S. Population

H2N2: 630 deaths per million people
H3N2: 500 per million
Sars-cov2: 214 per million (projected)

[ChumpDumper]

In terms of U.S. Population

H2N2: 630 deaths per million people
H3N2: 500 per million
Sars-cov2: 214 per million (projected)

Why are you still trying to downplay this by comparing it to the flu, Darrin?

[TSA]

Going for herd immunity isn't wise until we have a proven and effective anti-viral treatment. As far as we know right now, this thing hits harder than the flu. During the 2018-19 flu season, there were 18K hospitalizations due to flu in NY over a 6 month period. New York already had 42K Covid-19 hospitalizations. This is where someone might bring up the from/with argument, and that the stats are skewed because of this. But this is dumb. Hypertension, diabetes, COPD, etc are livable conditions that rarely turn into an acute life threatening situation just like that. Covid is exacerbating those conditions to life threatening. Also, the from/with distinction is applied to the flu. It also turns those illness into severe situations that require hospitalization.

It would also take a decade to build up herd immunity in a place like the US, with its spread out population (this is also why I never believed the 2.2 million dead scenarios in a year or whatever. This virus moves fast, but you have to constantly be meeting and infecting new people. Most people basically stay in their social and family circles much of the time) The marginal herd immunity we have for the flu happened over decades. Best COA is to minimize deaths until we have a proven anti-viral and vaccine.

You and I are going go with herd immunity in California.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...m_npd_nn_tw_ma

[hater]

You and I are going go with herd immunity in California.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...m_npd_nn_tw_ma

obviously everyone wants herd immunity

just not in the way some idiots want it which would immediately lift restrictions and let a few hundred thousand die

california is not going for the latter

[picnroll]

As long as he doesn't founder it's okay.

Fat man is ed up his copious ass, even the repug voter suppression maneuvers in Wisconsin failed miserably. Ain’t gonna be pretty for the fat man and his mob.

[boutons_deux]

Coronavirus destroys lungs.

But doctors are finding its damage in kidneys, hearts and elsewhere.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-destroys-lungs-but-doctors-are-finding-its-damage-in-kidneys-hearts-and-elsewhere/2020/04/14/7ff71ee0-7db1-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most& utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_m ost

[DarrinS]

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Spreads easily and silently. Damages multiple organ. Kills and leaves long term damage. Diagnostic tests for infection have many false negatives. Patient diagnostic tests go from positive to negative to positive. Antibody tests for immunity fail to detect antibodies in nearly 10% of patients when present and give false positives. Uncertain if antibodies equate to immunity or if so if immunity persist. This is one miserable virus.

[ChumpDumper]

Hopefully they track these guys and see if they develop any symptoms. That would actually be useful.

BTW, maybe you missed these:

I think he listens to experts that inform his decisions. Were his experts wrong?

No, Darrin.

I don't think these people were wrong. I think regardless of the actual source, there was a danger in Wuhan.

Two years before the novel coronavirus pandemic upended the world, U.S. Embassy officials visited a Chinese research facility in the city of Wuhan several times and sent two official warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety at the lab, which was conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...coronaviruses/

Do you think these people were wrong, Darrin?

Yes or no.

I think he listens to experts that inform his decisions. Were his experts wrong?

I don't think this Feb. 23 memo with information from experts was wrong.









https://www.axios.com/exclusive-nava...48f8382a9.html

Do you think they were wrong, Darrin?

Yes or no.

[Chris]

you're welcome

[Chris]

nasty woman

[Chris]

[Thread]

That ain't gonna see CNN air space, by God.

Chris