Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[midnightpulp]

I'm sure you would be donating to these bar and club small businesses while they endure your indefinite shutdown.

Indefinite=/=forever. But they shouldn't be allowed to open until we get further clarification on how the virus transmits in spaces like that.

[midnightpulp]

Packing into dining rooms is lunacy when SARSCov2 can be transmitted through airborne droplets. How do people wear masks when they're eating? And they'll be spreading tons of droplets all throughout the dining room talking to their family/friends while sitting there for half an hour to an hour. Six feet is a joke with people not wearing masks in a small area with AC carrying their droplets around the room while they're there for an extended period.

But the worst thing is gyms reopening. That right there shows you Trump couldn't give the slightest about any of our lives. A bunch of people in an enclosed area for extended periods exhaling droplets through breathing hard on the treadmill, bike, bench press, etc. Who doesn't exhale with a lot more force than normal when exercising hard?

God damn the USA

I would think if restaurants were allowed to reopen, it would be at 25% capacity and only if you have a large enough dining area to keep patrons some 10 feet away from another table. Outdoor and/or drive up (like those 50s diners with the rollergirl waitresses) dining is another option. The food service industry employs more workers than any other, so we're going to have to figure out a way to slowly and carefully bring that industry back on line.

[pgardn]

Don't watch SLN, but I thought it was hilarious

Yep.

Basically because it is.
Actual actors can do this better than most people which is why they do these entertainment gigs.

I liked the relative time analogy.

[baseline bum]

I would think if restaurants were allowed to reopen, it would be at 25% capacity and only if you have a large enough dining area to keep patrons some 10 feet away from another table. Outdoor and/or drive up (like those 50s diners with the rollergirl waitresses) dining is another option. The food service industry employs more workers than any other, so we're going to have to figure out a way to slowly and carefully bring that industry back on line.

The sit down restaurant industry is just going to die. Anyone with a room temperature IQ is not going to pack themselves into dining rooms in a pandemic even if the crooks in power say it's ok. Restaurants with decently sized dining rooms won't survive on 3-4 tables in the place and not many are going to last on takeout since the margins usually aren't very good on food when you take away the mixed drinks, beer, wine, soda, iced tea, etc that are the real profit centers.

[Winehole23]

The sit down restaurant industry is just going to die. Anyone with a room temperature IQ is not going to pack themselves into dining rooms in a pandemic even if the crooks in power say it's ok. Restaurants with decently sized dining rooms won't survive on 3-4 tables in the place and not many are going to last on takeout since the margins usually aren't very good on food when you take away the mixed drinks, beer, wine, soda, iced tea, etc that are the real profit centers.

I fear you're right about this, but there are much worse things than having to eat at home.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2370...-h/23700-h.htm

[hater]

The sit down restaurant industry is just going to die. Anyone with a room temperature IQ is not going to pack themselves into dining rooms in a pandemic even if the crooks in power say it's ok. Restaurants with decently sized dining rooms won't survive on 3-4 tables in the place and not many are going to last on takeout since the margins usually aren't very good on food when you take away the mixed drinks, beer, wine, soda, iced tea, etc that are the real profit centers.

sadly this makes a lot of sense

I think there would be some ppl willing to risk it(young) but at least 50% restaurants will die a horrible death

[hater]

also delivery food is fine

but pickup from better restaurants is sad. the food comes out cold and not fresh. its a ty experience

I rather cook than eat that most times. sadly

wonder how food trucks will do

[TimDunkem]

I would think if restaurants were allowed to reopen, it would be at 25% capacity and only if you have a large enough dining area to keep patrons some 10 feet away from another table. Outdoor and/or drive up (like those 50s diners with the rollergirl waitresses) dining is another option. The food service industry employs more workers than any other, so we're going to have to figure out a way to slowly and carefully bring that industry back on line.

I like the optimism, but they would have to be constantly monitored. People in general will skirt the rules as often as they can. It's a recipe for disaster as well, imho.

My bro works in a restaurant and they were trying to sit parties until March 25th even though they were told not to 3 weeks before.

[hater]

eating at a restaurant will probably cost twice as much as before so only rich will be able to tbqh

[vy65]

Jesus Christ, an industry that has been around for centuries if not millennia is not going away because of coronavirus. You all talk like dine in restaurants are going the way of the dinosaur.

[TimDunkem]

The sit down restaurant industry is just going to die. Anyone with a room temperature IQ is not going to pack themselves into dining rooms in a pandemic even if the crooks in power say it's ok. Restaurants with decently sized dining rooms won't survive on 3-4 tables in the place and not many are going to last on takeout since the margins usually aren't very good on food when you take away the mixed drinks, beer, wine, soda, iced tea, etc that are the real profit centers.

This is the thing with businesses in general. It's not worth it for some to open up for a handful of people. Delivery with a skeleton crew is the best some of these places can hope for. Otherwise, they'll find out soon what it's going to cost them to open up to this new world.

[Winehole23]

Jesus Christ, an industry that has been around for centuries if not millennia is not going away because of coronavirus. You all talk like dine in restaurants are going the way of the dinosaur.

It may be awhile before people feel safe in restaurants and the ratio of places offering curbside service now doesn't seem very high. Hard to see how curbside and pantry sales will pay Austin rents. A number of places have shut their doors forever.

If I were a bank, I'd be wary about lending money to new restaurants for the foreseeable future. To survive the next 2-5 years, sit down places will have to change the way they do business drastically.

[vy65]

It may be awhile before people feel safe in restaurants and the ratio of places offering curbside service now soesn't seem very high. Hard to see how curbside and pantry sales will pay Austin rents. A number of places have shut their doors forever.

If I were a bank, I'd be wary about lending money to new restaurants for the foreseeable future

I think that’s largely right, although I think many will find a way to pull through. It won’t be easy and any will shutter. But this sentiment that there won’t be sit in restaurants anymore is not right.

[Reck]

I wouldn’t feel comfortable going to a restaurant and taking in the sights. It will be some time before I will go to a restaurant and eat in.

What is wrong with order pick up? Haven’t they been doing that?

[Winehole23]

I think that’s largely right, although I think many will find a way to pull through. It won’t be easy and any will shutter. But this sentiment that there won’t be sit in restaurants anymore is not right.

I didn't take BB to mean there will be *no* restaurants from now on, but it's hard to argue the point that restaurants as we have known them up til now *are* already gone, at least for the time being.

[TimDunkem]

Only a few places will be able to survive on the blueprint laid out for safely serving people in this new world. For many restaurants, this will be unsustainable, and the closures will happen when they realize that there's no way to make a profit on the handful of people they're serving.

Let's be honest, how many of you are going to take the risk and go out, have your temperature taken, deal with the hassle of going through all the steps just to safely pay for your overpriced food and recieve it, then enjoy it through your mask huddled in the corner of an empty restaurant?

Sounds stupid as to me. It won't be worth it at all. Most eat out for the experience and social gathering. If those have been sucked out of it, then what's the point?

[vy65]

I didn't take BB to mean there will be *no* restaurants from now on, but it's hard to argue the point that restaurants as we have known them up til now *are* already gone, at least for the time being.

If I’m taking him too literally, mea culpa. But while the industry has a tough slog ahead, I don’t think sit in restaurants are going to die. Call me a foolish optimist

[baseline bum]

I think that’s largely right, although I think many will find a way to pull through. It won’t be easy and any will shutter. But this sentiment that there won’t be sit in restaurants anymore is not right.

They're going to have to raise prices to be profitable now that their entire business model of the food being almost loss leaders for the alcohol / soda / tea / etc they made huge margins on isn't workable with near empty dining rooms (which you'd absolutely need for mid's recommended social distancing protocol) and takeout / delivery. And that's of course going to drive people away who are going to be pissed thinking "how can this place raise prices during another great depression?" The restaurant business is difficult in the best of times, now it's going to be unsustainable to the majority in these times.

[ChumpDumper]

I think it depends on how the opening goes next month. I think some restaurants could be running at their new capacities and hopefully tracing is going to be coming online to see the effects.

[picnroll]

I can see high end restaurants opening up with private dining rooms. Room gets zapped with uv lights between meals like some airplanes do now. Maybe food and drinks goes through a pass through again zapped. Expensive but only way I’d dine out now.There’s also in line air purifiers with UV, H2O2, etc than can handle HVAC.

[pgardn]

I have not ordered anything to go since mid March.

And I have a possibly very stupid belief I will be just fine if I contract it.
But I will be damned if family members or anyone else get it from me.
Can you imagine a person you know or health care worker being contacted saying did you see this idiot (me) in the last month?

[TimDunkem]

I can see high end restaurants opening up with private dining rooms. Room gets zapped with uv lights between meals like some airplanes do now. Maybe food and drinks goes through a pass through again zapped. Expensive but only way I’d dine out now.There’s also in line air purifiers with UV, H2O2, etc than can handle HVAC.

Not worth it for the average Joe in the Covid economy. Dine in will soon be the privilege of high end restaurants and a handful of customers with deep pockets.

[baseline bum]

I think it depends on how the opening goes next month. I think some restaurants could be running at their new capacities and hopefully tracing is going to be coming online to see the effects.

It'll seem almost normal early on since exponential growth is super slow then super slow then super slow then super slow then very slow then holy it shot up to . So sit down restaurants will have a little borrowed time but if SARSCov2 doesn't show itself to be highly seasonal like the flu those numbers will eventually shoot up quickly and that's game over again for them. We already know testing and tracing like South Korea is out of the picture under a Trump presidency.

[midnightpulp]

I like the optimism, but they would have to be constantly monitored. People in general will skirt the rules as often as they can. It's a recipe for disaster as well, imho.

My bro works in a restaurant and they were trying to sit parties until March 25th even though they were told not to 3 weeks before.

I'm not particularly optimistic, just spitballing ideas on how to possibly salvage the restaurant industry. The food/drink industry is a massive employer, biggest in the country. That industry being cut in half is all you need for a recession/depression.

[Winehole23]

It'll seem almost normal early on since exponential growth is super slow then super slow then super slow then super slow then very slow then holy it shot up to . So sit down restaurants will have a little borrowed time but if SARSCov2 doesn't show itself to be highly seasonal like the flu those numbers will eventually shoot up quickly and that's game over again for them. We already know testing and tracing like South Korea is out of the picture under a Trump presidency.

What's crazy is that the research on this has already been done. In 1918-9, cities with stricter/prompter social distancing had fewer excess deaths and recovered more quickly once the pandemic abated. Places like Denver, which relaxed them too quickly, suffered a crippling second wave of sickness and death, and stayed depressed longer.

Reopening while caseloads in most US states are still rising resembles a death wish. It may also make the depression worse. I don't think it will be the electoral boon DJT thinks it will be.