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    What did Donald do to New York to cause 22,000 deaths?

    Why doesn't California have 22000 deaths?
    Moving goalposts. I thought this was about impeachment? Now it's a strawman about causing deaths -- something which I never said.

    Again, what is the defense?

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    Now Trump works at the CDC.
    Nope, even better. He's its boss.

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    Noticeably absent in this response is a defense of Trump's coronavirus response.
    NY 22K deaths
    Texas 600 deaths


    Explain the disparity.

    You won't because it will show things that you cannot pin on Trump.

    You're another TDSer. Just move along.

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    NY 22K deaths
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    Explain the disparity.

    You won't because it will show things that you cannot pin on Trump.

    You're another TDSer. Just move along.
    Has Trump done anything wrong RE: this pandemic.

    If yes, what?

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    Nope, even better. He's its boss.
    So he has responsibility for it and that does fall in his lap. He condemned the CDC for lack of testing in early March. Oh but that's just him passing the buck. He should have built the tests himself in his basement.

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    There are anecdotes but by and large we are doing what the Dr mentioned. Other countries are doing just the opposite - ignoring the COVID if they have pre-existing conditions. That's a double whammy.
    We only started what, maybe a couple weeks ago? A month maybe? If we're still finding cases of mislabeling right now, it means we've not been doing what the good doctor said we needed to do either.

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    Chirp?

    Chirp or Chirp

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    We only started what, maybe a couple weeks ago? A month maybe? If we're still finding cases of mislabeling right now, it means we've not been doing what the good doctor said we needed to do either.
    So you trust South Korea's numbers but not the United States?

    She didn't say we needed to do it. She said we are doing it. Death certs are wrong like half the time.

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    It's never been easier to stop you in your tracks tbh.

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    A private military would be 100x more efficient than the one we have. It's just not economically feasible and not a good idea based on transfer of power.

    Example: I was stationed on a base that was slotted for closure. The base had prior received permission for a name change. The base closed, but the government still spent the money to change the name of the base on all do ents, on the entrances, exits and buildings, and to paint a different color scheme. All this on an abandoned military base. Private companies wouldn't be able to do that.
    Define "efficient"? In that they spend less and would be cheaper? sure. On the other hand, you wouldn't have an F-35 or technological superiority. An F-35 would look like an updated F-16 design made up of plastic parts made in China, and sold first to the highest bidder, likely Saudi Arabia and the like.

    One only has to look at Boeing to see how this thing works out in the private sector. An industry that has stagnated for decades, bets only on relatively sure things, and s up technology upgrades costing people lives. Do we need to put our national security in those hands?

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    So you trust South Korea's numbers but not the United States?
    I think they're likely being underreported to the same degree and not intentionally.
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 04-27-2020 at 06:17 PM.

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    So you trust South Korea's numbers but not the United States?

    She didn't say we needed to do it. She said we are doing it. Death certs are wrong like half the time.
    I trust both South Korea numbers and the United States numbers. I have no reason to believe either is intentionally fudging numbers to follow a narrative.

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    Which doesn't mean numbers are 100% accurate, there's obviously a margin of error, but not because of nefarious purposes.

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    A private military would be 100x more efficient than the one we have.
    Ass talking

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    I'd rather be in SK or NZ's shoes right about now, wouldn't you?
    Not New Zealand. They won't have any herd immunity for a long time.

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    I trust both South Korea numbers and the United States numbers. I have no reason to believe either is intentionally fudging numbers to follow a narrative.
    But you think COVID deaths are being recorded incorrectly, is that right?

    If you think it's happening here, could it also be happening in South Korea?

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    Explain the disparity.

    You won't because it will show things that you cannot pin on Trump.

    You're another TDSer. Just move along.
    22600+ deaths in the United States.

    Blame local government, never Trump. Never.

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    a private for profit military being efficient

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    Which doesn't mean numbers are 100% accurate, there's obviously a margin of error, but not because of nefarious purposes.
    Intent is beside the point unless we're talking about children - the effect is the same. The degree of accuracy needs to be similar to have any real comparisons.

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    22600+ deaths in the United States.

    Blame local government, never Trump. Never.
    , one could argue Trump's failed travel ban gave state and local governments a false sense of security.

    Trump declared mission accomplished so why worry?

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    a private for profit military being efficient
    Organizations without compe ion (government) don't need to be efficient. When you have compe ion, you have to find ways to come in lower and still be able to deliver. This is why the military takes the lowest bid, but that bid is from private industry. If the military was more efficient they'd make the themselves.

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