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    that's telling him

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    The Virus Will Win

    Americans are pretending that the pandemic is over. It certainly is not.


    Asecond wave of the coronavirus is on the way. When it arrives, we will lack the will to deal with it.

    Despite all the sacrifices of the past months,

    the virus is likely to win—

    or perhaps it would be more accurate to say that it already has.

    In absolute terms, the United States has been hit harder than any other country.

    About a quarter of worldwide deaths have been recorded on these shores.

    And while the virus is no longer growing at an exponential rate, the threat it poses remains significant:

    According to a forecasting model by Morgan Stanley,

    the number of American cases will, if current trends hold, roughly double over the next two months.

    So was the reason to hope that some magic bullet might rescue us from the worst ravages of the disease.

    At this point, such hopes look unrealistic.

    After months of intense research, an effective treatment for COVID-19 still does not exist.

    A vaccine is, even if we get lucky, many months away from deployment.

    nearly nine out of 10 Republicans trusted “the information you hear about coronavirus from medical experts” back in April.

    Now just about one in three does.

    Thanks to the effort of millions of people, we were close to a great success story.

    But because of the failures

    of Trump and Chauvin,

    of the CDC and the WHO,

    of public-health experts and

    Fox News hosts,

    we are, instead, likely to give up—and tolerate that hundreds of thousands of our fellow citizens will die needless deaths.


    Pandemics reveal the true state of a society.

    Ours has come up badly wanting.


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/virus-will-win/612946/


    USA is getting about 21K news cases per day,

    625K new cases/month,

    3M new cases by Nov 3.

    90K more dead, 200K dead, by Nov3

    "If I lose, I'll just do something else"

    Last edited by boutons_deux; 06-13-2020 at 05:41 PM.

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    The Virus Will Win

    Americans are pretending that the pandemic is over. It certainly is not.


    Asecond wave of the coronavirus is on the way. When it arrives, we will lack the will to deal with it.

    Despite all the sacrifices of the past months,

    the virus is likely to win—

    or perhaps it would be more accurate to say that it already has.

    In absolute terms, the United States has been hit harder than any other country.

    About a quarter of worldwide deaths have been recorded on these shores.

    And while the virus is no longer growing at an exponential rate, the threat it poses remains significant:

    According to a forecasting model by Morgan Stanley,

    the number of American cases will, if current trends hold, roughly double over the next two months.

    So was the reason to hope that some magic bullet might rescue us from the worst ravages of the disease.

    At this point, such hopes look unrealistic.

    After months of intense research, an effective treatment for COVID-19 still does not exist.

    A vaccine is, even if we get lucky, many months away from deployment.

    nearly nine out of 10 Republicans trusted “the information you hear about coronavirus from medical experts” back in April.

    Now just about one in three does.

    Thanks to the effort of millions of people, we were close to a great success story.

    But because of the failures of Trump and Chauvin,

    of the CDC and the WHO,

    of public-health experts and

    Fox News hosts,

    we are, instead, likely to give up—and tolerate that hundreds of thousands of our fellow citizens will die needless deaths.

    Pandemics reveal the true state of a society.

    Ours has come up badly wanting.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ll-win/612946/

    USA is getting about 21K news cases per day,

    625K new cases/month,

    3M new cases by Nov 3.

    90K more dead, 200K dead, by Nov3

    "If I lose, I'll just do something else"

    Increased testing will increase likelihood of cases but that doesn't mean the virus is spreading. The virus will win? What does that even mean? Death attributed to virus has already converged with all excess deaths disproving the undercounting and saving lives theory of lockdown. Combine with economic fallout from lockdown, the response to this disease, thanks to the comparison to the spanish flu and media hype, will go down as one of the worst medical responses in history

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    that's telling him
    What he said was ignorant. I have already stated numerous times that every state and country counts in different, unreliable, and not valid ways. He, like you, doesn't understand how to use the data even when it is available to you. I states before the lockdown hygienic people and space were the strategy and if you weren't 70 with a preexisting condition you would be fine, just like the flu

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    tap out

    Choke hold 1 minute before the event.
    A new record.
    Math whiz leaves the room in a stretcher.

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    What he said was ignorant. I have already stated numerous times that every state and country counts in different, unreliable, and not valid ways.
    So the fck what?
    You tap out anytime we get into details.

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    Choke hold 1 minute before the event.
    A new record.
    Math whiz leaves the room in a stretcher.
    Sorry you dont know hownto do simple math. Tell me more about covid.

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    So the fck what?
    You tap out anytime we get into details.
    Lol meltdown. The facts are the data. I post it. You cant do math. Lolllolol

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    Sorry you dont know hownto do simple math. Tell me more about covid.
    Looks like a vaccine could be easy to make.
    Has all the molecular characteristics of one we can handle.
    Discuss.

    You want to put up the same graph you did before that was mislabeled therefore the slope had absolutely no meaning?

    Tap out incoming...

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    Looks like a vaccine could be easy to make.
    Has all the molecular characteristics of one we can handle.
    Discuss.

    You want to put up the same graph you did before that was mislabeled therefore the slope had absolutely no meaning?

    Tap out incoming...
    Not sure what you are referring to. Don't care about Vax care about your ignorance and not understanding data. Current real data.

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    14 day down trend in New hospitalizations in AZ

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    Looks like a vaccine could be easy to make.
    Has all the molecular characteristics of one we can handle.
    Discuss.

    You want to put up the same graph you did before that was mislabeled therefore the slope had absolutely no meaning?

    Tap out incoming...
    35 years later, then is no vaccine for AIDS virus

    MERS and SARS are corona viruses close to vaccine availability but still lots of testing to go, MANY years after they emerged.

    Treatment of C19 is more immediately required, while the hunt for vaccine continues

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    Not sure what you are referring to. Don't care about Vax care about your ignorance and not understanding data. Current real data.
    You dont understand data or graphs.
    You also dont understand that the gathering of both involves mistakes that we can use math on to try to calculate error.
    YOu dont understand anything having to do with science and the gathering of data, you have proved it.

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    35 years later, then is no vaccine for AIDS virus

    MERS and SARS are corona viruses close to vaccine availability but still lots of testing to go, MANY years after they emerged.

    Treatment of C19 is more immediately required, while the hunt for vaccine continues
    There are qualities the proteins have that could make a vaccine much easier than the other corona viruses.

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    You dont understand data or graphs.
    You also dont understand that the gathering of both involves mistakes that we can use math on to try to calculate error.
    YOu dont understand anything having to do with science and the gathering of data, you have proved it.
    Already proved you wrong every time you post. Trending down for weeks in the usa. Lockdowns proven to be ineffective.

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    Already proved you wrong every time you post. Trending down for weeks in the usa. Lockdowns proven to be ineffective.
    You have been wrong time after time.
    You have an incredible streak going.
    I not only prove you wrong, when I put you to task you tap out like a vegetable without a thought.

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    You have been wrong time after time.
    You have an incredible streak going.
    Usa has been trending down for weeks. All that needs to be said really. Trending down.

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    Usa has been trending down for weeks. All that needs to be said really. Trending down.
    You had stated the Southern States that saw an uptick would go down.
    You have been very wrong.
    You also stated that deaths associated the virus would never reach 50,000, this was a huge error.

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    You had stated the Southern States that saw an uptick would go down.
    You have been very wrong.
    they have.

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    Yes they showed an uptick when you said they would not.
    You were wrong.

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    You also said the virus was a DNA virus which was incredibly wrong.

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    Yes they showed an uptick when you said they would not.
    You were wrong.
    Doesn't matter the trend is down.

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    You also said the virus was a DNA virus which was incredibly wrong.
    Come on. He started off saying it's the flu. That was his high point.

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    Then you stated the virus had no outer coat, you were wrong again.
    You have constantly been wrong.

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    You also said the virus was a DNA virus which was incredibly wrong.
    I never commented on that. Only the numbers.

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