Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[DarrinS]

I hope you're not talking about the way Thread gives his mother the Vitamin D tbh.

Ewwe.

[pgardn]

Osterholm is good, and he warned us about not taking this seriously, which we didn't to begin with.

About vaccines, I was reading that the issue now is that with the virus both mutating and leveling out in most of the world, it gets difficult to find good samples of patients to test them on.

we have kept up with this fairly well.

The virus is mutating in its genetic material RNA which allows us to follow the path of the different strains. but the key is it is NOT mutating in coding regions for the most important proteins that allow it to infect us. This is very important. A vaccine is very doable purely from a molecular standpoint. Testing and mass production are a whole other ball game.

if anyone finds an update on what I have posted above I would appreciate reading it.
AsI read the material this is how it stands at present.

[TSA]

I just meant exponential early on when infection rates are low, like how Italy and NYC had near perfect exponential death counts in March before the time delay from lockdowns really kicked in for the death rates. That even an absolute best case scenario of a vaccine distributed to the most at risk of our general population by the end of the year would be unlikely to save us from massive death counts.



I had to stop watching the national news because I got sick of the bull hope they keep feeding viewers about vaccines and cures. I guess saying sucks isn't good for ratings.

There was an easy way to cut our death count in half without any vaccine.

[TSA]

[DarrinS]

There was an easy way to cut our death count in half without any vaccine.

What way is that?

[pgardn]

There was an easy way to cut our death count in half without any vaccine.

or to double it...

[TSA]

[pgardn]

What way is that?

Change the numbers.

after all it, has to be an over count right?

[TSA]

What way is that?

keeping infected out of nursing/long term care facilities. All said and done I’m guessing over 50+% attributed there. Looking back should have been the number #1 place protected.

[pgardn]

is this for real?

[pgardn]

keeping infected out of nursing/long term care facilities. All said and done I’m guessing over 50+% attributed there. Looking back should have been the number #1 place protected.

agree here

these so-called retirement homes are absolutely awful

[TSA]

agree here

these so-called retirement homes are absolutely awful

No we don’t agree here. These “so-called retirement homes” were telling them they couldn’t handle/contain these infected patients and they were forced upon them.

[TSA]

backlogged deaths from April. Oh my that e. Lololololol you guys.

same across the country

[TSA]

California coronavirus surge tied to increase in testing, not reopening businesses, official says

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...mpression=true

[baseline bum]

keeping infected out of nursing/long term care facilities. All said and done I’m guessing over 50+% attributed there. Looking back should have been the number #1 place protected.

Pretty disgusting story about how lax the one nursing home responsible at one time for half the COVID deaths in San Antonio was with its caregivers. If I remember right I think KSAT12 published a story about how one of the caregivers had a girlfriend sick and showing COVID symptoms and they never asked the worker to isolate. Most of the home ended up COVID positive and something like 1/5 of the residents died.

[ChumpDumper]

same across the country

OK, that explains Saturday in Alabama. Now account for the rest of the time.

[TSA]

same across the country

[TSA]

[ElNono]

I said it was the 5th so idk wtf your talking about

I thought you meant in the sense that we are not that familiar with these occurrences.

I think it was on a Joe Rogan interview very early on where he said flat out we have never been able to stop these types of respiratory viruses. So be more specific, "experts like him"????

Just more vague nonsense that's been going on for 100's of pages.

Nice swerve, but not going to let you off the hook. Again, because you completely ignored it, nobody said stopping the virus, everybody said containing.

Do you want to watch that Joe Rogan interview again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

11:30 talks directly about social distancing working which the the kind of stuff we needed to do to contain this thing.

Same interview he says they've a report out at the end of January predicting this stuff.

[ElNono]

keeping infected out of nursing/long term care facilities. All said and done I’m guessing over 50+% attributed there. Looking back should have been the number #1 place protected.

The numbers I saw were close to 20% attributed there... was on an AP article when we were discussing this, but don't have the link handy.

[TSA]

The numbers I saw were close to 20% attributed there... was on an AP article when we were discussing this, but don't have the link handy.

see an optometrist

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nurs...s-3a47433c3f70

[ElNono]

see an optometrist

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nurs...s-3a47433c3f70

thanks... the underlying data from that study (linked on the article or here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Ts8/edit#gid=0)...

Says the number of deaths on Long Term Care Facilities/Assisted Living in New York is 13.8%...

That's actually lower than what I recall it being when we looked at that AP story, which was closer to 20% IIRC

[ElNono]

Interesting also, because it does show that in areas that have gotten out of control, nursing home/long term facilities apparently had a minimum impact in the total count.

EDIT: On the other hand, on states that had minimal impact, that's certainly has been the weak spot.

[ElNono]

Then again, FreeOPP ties to Koch and the Cato Ins ute makes me wary... but thanks for the info anyways.

[ChumpDumper]

Then again, FreeOPP ties to Koch and the Cato Ins ute makes me wary... but thanks for the info anyways.

Well, their source is...themselves. So you know it's bulletproof.