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    vaccination should never be quick. This virus creates an immune response in some individuals that can not be explained yet. That would suggest something unique in those patients, perhaps genetic or even previous vaccinations. A rushed vaccine could be harmful for those people.
    The vaccine itself will not contain the virus.

    Hardly any vaccines even contain attenuated viruses anymore.

    Now you could be right if just some simple protein causing all these problems but that is very unlikely imo.
    And the usual suspects that react to vaccines anyway should not be getting vaccinated.


    And quick is a relative term. It has taken many years to get vaccines that have the least number of side effects.
    But at the same time, we know a lot more about how to make them and potential pitfalls.

    I am hopeful. Mostly because its all ive got right now.
    We may just have to live with this thing for a number of years.
    And our health care system under orange man CANNOT bear this burden unless, hospitals, doctors, insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, etc... wont come after payment from individuals who have used them.
    Last edited by pgardn; 07-02-2020 at 09:40 AM.

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    Don't know who threw that 98% out there but, remember bro, death rate doesn't matter right now. Methodist is almost filled and that's a huge conplex. Whatever the percentage is, it will rise if this doesn't stop somehow. What worries me is that nothing is going to stop the train of this week and the next that's coming.
    True deathrate of the virus is close to 2%

    I just dont like the lies either way

    - dont wear a mask (lie)
    - you wont see aug 1 unless... (lie)

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    Here it is

    theoldren popping off about no problem
    gone now

    I told people on this board if they were so sure there was not a human shortage to go volunteer at the Methodist.

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    ‘Deplorable’: Trump condemned as America buys up nearly entire supply of COVID-19 drug

    “It’s a very concerning precedent because if we see the vaccine coming from a U.S. company,

    we’re likely to see the same type of behavior and hoarding by the U.S. and other developed countries.”

    Most of the world will not be able to make use of a modestly effective Covid-19 treatment for at least the next three months

    because the Trump administration this week
    bought up nearly the entire supply of the drug,

    a move critics said

    exposes the potentially deadly consequences of the U.S. president’s so-called “
    America First” approach

    in the context of a pandemic that has swept the globe.


    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/dep..._campaign=4899

    Remember that CPB/DHS was hijacking/stealing arrivals of PPE bought by the states?



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    THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS WAIVING THE PUBLIC’S RIGHT TO AFFORDABLE CORONAVIRUS TREATMENTS

    THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has failed to include intellectual property and pricing protections

    in at least four contracts for drugs to combat Covid-19.

    Legal safeguards meant to ensure that products developed with federal funds are affordable and widely available were missing from the contracts,

    which are worth more than $1 billion

    and were released along with other do ents last week in response to freedom of information requests.

    The omissions make it more likely that potentially

    lifesaving treatments and vaccines may be priced out of reach,

    even as the spiraling financial and health crises increase the need for affordable drugs.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/07/01/coronavirus-treatment-drug-contracts-trump/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=The%20Intercept%20New sletter



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    my wife works in a lab.
    The doctors come in all the time and they are very worried.
    some of these doctors thankfully are very curious and are trying to get a better diagnostic feel for what this virus has in common person to person. The hematology people in the lab seem to think the virus causes a very similar type of weird white blood cell to show up

    I am thankful for all the medical workers that are corresponding with each other to try to get a grasp of what is going on. too bad we don’t have the leader ship to get a more coordinated effort
    Eyup. That is the strength of the US medical system right there. A lot of smart, dedicated people who talk to each other. Humans can be pretty awesome.

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    theoldren popping off about no problem
    gone now

    I told people on this board if they were so sure there was not a human shortage to go volunteer at the Methodist.
    Eyup. tiest poster ever, and that includes koriwhat and some of the other conspiracy asshats. 15 years I have been here, and it is no contest. Still sort of amazed.

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    Sobering to see the hospital most of my family has been using for decades in such dire straits, especially when we're still so early in this. I can't imagine what the place is going to look like in 3-4 weeks. Well I can, refrigerated trucks like New York or death panels like Italy.
    Methodist is not overwhelmed at the moment. Busy but not overwhelmed.

    Wife has practiced there 23 years. She's on the call up list so I'll know when they are overwhelmed.

    Yesterday the senior partner came in to assure her that they would cover her practice should Methodist call her up. She thought "what a nice gesture" until last night when she it occurred to her "oh did he hear something"

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    "It was an eye opener. Of all the ones that I've seen." - CNN reporter who was in Houston and NYC after his visit to Methodist.
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    RiP texas ma nigs

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    "It was an eye opener. Of all the ones that I've seen." - CNN anchor who was in Houston and NYC after his visit to Methodist.
    Well, I could've been an actor, but I wound up here

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    RiP texas ma nigs
    At least Thread is going faster to the mass graves than I am, thank you Arizona. Gotta take the small wins when you can in times like these.

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    SnakeBoy with the crisis actor card.

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    China Never Reported Existence of Coronavirus to World Health Organization
    WHO backtracks on original claim that China self-reported, admits this never happened
    https://freebeacon.com/national-secu...-organization/

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    Yes, Red China bad. All this happening now is on us and us alone.

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    Yes, Red China bad. All this happening now is on us and us alone.
    The global hysteria is on the us alone? Media and ChumpDumper gossip

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    The global hysteria is on the us alone? Media and ChumpDumper gossip
    All your lies are on you.

    Why do you lie all the time?

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    All your lies are on you.

    Why do you lie all the time?
    beahahhahahhah no substance so the same thing over and over for months. Lol

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    beahahhahahhah no substance so the same thing over and over for months. Lol
    You've done nothing but lie.

    Why do you lie all the time?

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    You've done nothing but lie.

    Why do you lie all the time?
    Months of the above. Look at that logic.

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    Months of the above. Look at that logic.
    meltdown

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    When it rains it pours

    Black Plague making a comeback


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    Eyup. tiest poster ever, and that includes koriwhat and some of the other conspiracy asshats. 15 years I have been here, and it is no contest. Still sort of amazed.
    Nope, Avante

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    Tholdren said he was an athlete and NBA players have no skill. He has some of Avante's worst traits, tbh.

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