Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[Blake]

It's about lowering the threshold and the R0 factor. If the virus burns through, say, 20 percent of the pop, but if the remaining 80 percent wearing masks, stay within their social circles, avoid crowded spaces, and social distance, the virus will find fewer and fewer people to infect and die out. Sure, it can be reintroduced by an outsider, but a comprehensive testing and tracing program can nip that in the bud. This happened with SARS-1. You didn't need herd immunity. It just died out because it had trouble finding new hosts due to the mitigation efforts in those countries (SARS-1 is what prompted Asian countries to wear masks all the time outside).

No eternal lockdown. There's much progress being made on a vaccine.

You also don't crash the hospital system

[boutons_deux]

With 10Ms of Americans not wearing masks, not social distancing,

the pandemic will continue indefinitely, not "die out"

Dr Birx' "embers"? G M A F B

===============

A Coronavirus Vaccine Won’t Work if People Don’t Take It

We need to start convincing skeptics now.

half to three-quarters of Americans intend to get the vaccine if one becomes available —

woefully short of what we’ll need to protect our communities.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/o...kepticism.html

... meaning 1/4 to 1/2 of Americans refuse to be vaccinated

[ElNono]

Full Text of US State Department Cables Finally Released, Showing Safety In Chinese Lab

On April 7th, a Trump campaign advisor told the Los Angeles Times "One way we still win this election is by turning it into a referendum on China." Within weeks the Washington Post noted "reports that the Trump administration has sought to pressure U.S. intelligence agencies to search for proof of a link between the Wuhan lab and the covid-19 outbreak." And that same month selected portions of two diplomatic cables from 2018 were leaked to the Washington Post, and published in a controversial "opinion piece."

The Post requested "expedited processing" for the release of the complete text of both cables — a routine request which was nevertheless denied. (Though a virologist at Columbia University shared a rebuttal in memes.) The complete text of the cables has now been released — and the additional information undercuts the story line that the lab — which was located a full nine miles from the market at the center of the outbreak — was anything less than safe. Though the Post's opinion piece had highlighted a clause about "a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory" — the diplomats had actually been concerned instead that the shortage would interfere with the lab's productivity and utilization — and not it's safety.

And there was apparently more information in the cable which was withheld. CNN reports:

The January 2018 cable, obtained by the Washington Post after a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, noted that ties between the WIV and the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston could help alleviate the shortage and that, reportedly, the US-based ins ution was training technicians to work at the Wuhan Ins ute of Virology (WIV). A second cable about the WIV from April 2018 cited a French official who said that "French experts have provided guidance and biosafety training to the lab, which will continue...."

Back in April a senior policy fellow at the Center for Global Development surmised the misleading excerpts from the cables had come from "an administration official with an obvious axe to grind." And this weekend the Columbia University virologist reacted to what the cable's full text revealed about the high safety standards at the Wuhan Ins ute of Virology:

"This cable says NOTHING about concerns with the work that was being done at WIV. The supposedly worrisome work was actually presented as a success story in a lab that was coming online more slowly than everyone — including the US authors of the cable — expected or hoped."

[boutons_deux]

Repugs LIED the USA into Iraq

and

Repugs ARE lying about the pandemic

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Growing evidence of covid antibodies waning in the blood quickly. More studies showing by 2-3 months they are gone.

[TSA]

Who runs the HHS? A Trump lackey.

You're a supposed Libertarian, so I have zero clue why you'd be in favor of the centralization of the data here that the public won't have access to?

In that official "Ministry of Truth" release, I see nothing about the data remaining open to the public. And again, the CDC's dashboard says:



This is indefensible.

[RandomGuy]

Herd immunity means kill everyone who cannot make it through the filter. Is that what you call mitigation? Maybe ask them. Do you think the virus is leaving? To you expect eternal lockdown? How do you get herd immunity without people being infected?

How do you know herd immunity is even possible with this?

It is possible without vaccine?

What % need to have been infected for that?

[tholdren]

How do you know herd immunity is even possible with this?

It is possible without vaccine?

What % need to have been infected for that?

Lol how do you know Vax is what you need. Lolollol

[Blake]

How do you know herd immunity is even possible with this?

It is possible without vaccine?

What % need to have been infected for that?

DEATH IS INEVITABLE MIGHT AS WELL SPEED IT UP

[tholdren]

DEATH IS INEVITABLE MIGHT AS WELL SPEED IT UP

Hilarious that this is actually your argument.

Hide because of covid

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[DarrinS]

Growing evidence of covid antibodies waning in the blood quickly. More studies showing by 2-3 months they are gone.

People who had recovered from SARS had SARS-specific T-cells 17 years later.

[Blake]

People who had recovered from SARS had SARS-specific T-cells 17 years later.

Dr Darrin

[tholdren]

Dr Darrin

that's correct. Anyone that uses science rather than politics is a dr. Notice none of the doctors are in agreement. Its almost like science

[ElNono]

that's correct. Anyone that uses science rather than politics is a dr. Notice none of the doctors are in agreement. Its almost like science

wrong

[Winehole23]

Three experts discuss Covid-19: How the Virus Gets in and How to Block It: Aerosols, Droplets, Masks, Face Shields, & More

[tholdren]

El nono are all covid cases confirmed through a test?

[baseline bum]

El nono are all covid cases confirmed through a test?

most seem to be confirmed by motorcycle crashes apparently

[tholdren]

most seem to be confirmed by motorcycle crashes apparently

so you interject with an admittance that you dont know how your numbers you are using were calculated?

Saves el nono from answering

[baseline bum]

so you interject with an admittance that you dont know how your numbers you are using were calculated?

Saves el nono from answering

post your conspiracy numbers son

how many non motorcycle deaths from covid?

[tholdren]

post your conspiracy numbers son

how many non motorcycle deaths from covid?

Its not a conspiracy. It's just inaccurate data and inaccurate data interpretation.

[baseline bum]

Its not a conspiracy. It's just inaccurate data and inaccurate data interpretation.

i'll add your conspiracy numbers to the daily death count

[tholdren]

i'll add your conspiracy numbers to the daily death count

So you are lying about the numbers and what i said.

Typical

[baseline bum]

So you are lying about the numbers and what i said.

Typical

Should I start at 10,000 for the tholdren conspiracy count?

[DarrinS]

Cheap tests