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    Where did you see that? Hard to imagine Japan being 60% to 70% infected.
    It's bs.

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    Where did you see that? Hard to imagine Japan being 60% to 70% infected.
    Tokyo citizens may have developed COVID-19 herd immunity

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...searchers.aspx



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    As Trash and Julie Annie outright LIE, of course, about "disappearing" and "nobody dies from covid19" ...

    "Seventeen U.S. states hit new highs in their seven-day averages of coronavirus cases on Monday, and

    eight of them reached new records again by Tuesday afternoon.

    Overall, 40 states have seen a week-to-week increase in infections.

    Health experts are worried the upward trends could mean an even greater surge in the months to come."

    -- WaPo email

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    cases in all US region rising

    Now do tests

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    Your hobby horse, your burden.

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    Trump's COVID-19 policy is the moral equivalent of mass murder, only it's worse than that. It intentionally spreads sickness and disability too.

    The declaration has more than 9,000 signatories from all over the world, its website says, though most of the names are not public. The do ent grew out of a meeting hosted by the American Ins ute for Economic Research, a libertarian-leaning research organization.
    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10...-herd-immunity

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    Americans still ing themselves, in health which means in finances

    COVID-19 in the US:

    44 states are in the red, including Mass.


    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/...-is- ing-us

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    It's not an either or question. If we don't get a handle on COVID, the economy will continue to be wonky.


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    Have you forgotten that Dr Birx defined that as “best case”???

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    Have you forgotten that Dr Birx defined that as “best case”???
    We're way past that figure now, and the outbreak isn't nearly over.

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    BwahahahhahahahahahahahahHH
    Can't recognize these cases follow tests. Record cases record tests 87pct asymptomatic.


    Lllololokklkkklmmkkllllookokll

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    Have you forgotten that Dr Birx defined that as “best case”???
    Have you forgotten that Trump said this would go away like magic in spring 2020?

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    BwahahahhahahahahahahahahHH
    Can't recognize these cases follow tests. Record cases record tests 87pct asymptomatic.


    Lllololokklkkklmmkkllllookokll
    more hand waving, zero support given

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    Have you forgotten that Trump said this would go away like magic in spring 2020?

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    more hand waving, zero support given
    The usa reports a million tests a day.

    https://covidtracking.com/data/national

    You posting raw data means nothing. Its gossip. Just like ElNomath

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    Have you forgotten that Trump said this would go away like magic in spring 2020?
    You said trump.would die from covid.

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    The usa reports a million tests a day.

    https://covidtracking.com/data/national

    You posting raw data means nothing. Its gossip. Just like ElNomath
    It's on you to show the correlation between the trend of testing and new cases.You haven't done that.

    Do you rule out the possibility that COVID-19 is still spreading, i.e., that there are more symptomatic people seeking tests? IOW, that the rate of growth of the caseload is patient rather than testing driven?

    (Piss poor social tracing means we still aren't catching very many unsymptomatic cases.)

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    Cases up in Europe as well.
    here we go, again.

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    The Lancet slams the idea of herd immunity through infection rather than vaccine:

    https://marlin-prod.literatumonline....362032153X.pdf

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    The arrival of a second wave and the realisation of the challenges ahead has led to renewed interest in a so-called herd immunity approach, which suggests allowing a large uncontrolled outbreak in the low-risk population while protecting the vulnerable. Proponents suggest this would lead to the development of infection-acquired population immunity in the low-risk population,which will eventually protect the vulnerable.This is a dangerous fallacy unsupported by scientific evidence.Any pandemic management strategy relying upon immunity from natural infections for COVID-19 is flawed. Uncontrolled transmission in younger people risks significant morbidity3 and mortality across the whole population. In addition to the human cost, this would impact the workforce as a whole and overwhelm the ability of healthcare systems to provide acute and routine care. Furthermore, there is no evidence for lasting protective immunity to SARS-CoV-2 following natural infection,4 and the endemic transmission that would be the consequence of waning immunity would present a risk to vulnerable populations for the indefinite future.
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    Such a strategy would not end the COVID-19 pandemic but result in recurrent epidemics, as was the case with numerous infectious diseases before the advent of vaccination. It would also place an unacceptable burden on the economy and healthcare workers, many of whom have died from COVID-19 or experienced trauma as a result of having to practise disaster medicine. Additionally, we still do not understand who might suffer from long COVID.3 Defining who is vulnerable is complex, but even if we consider those at risk of severe illness, the proportion of vulnerable people cons ute as much as 30% of the population in some regions.8 Prolonged isolation of large swathes of the population is practically impossible and highly unethical. Empirical evidence from many countries shows that it is not feasible to restrict uncontrolled outbreaks to particular sections of society. Such an approach also risks further exacerbating the socioeconomic inequities and structural discriminations already laid bareby the pandemic. Special efforts to protect the most vulnerable are essential but must go hand-in-hand with multi-pronged population-level strategies

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