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    In the clip, Dr Fauci says “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN26T2TR

    Lol chump
    The video clip is here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRa6t_e7dgI

    Was posted in an earlier post.

    First thing he says on the video is "the masks are important, for somebody who's infected to prevent infecting somebody else". Followed by "Right now, in the United States, people shouldn't be walking around with masks".

    So:
    1) Didn't say masks don't work. He actually said the exact opposite.

    2) He clearly said "right now". You can certainly disagree that's good advice at that particular time, I have no beef with that, but clearly he was speaking around the time the interview was made (March 2020).

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    Venezuela Announces Effective Medicine Against COVID-19

    Authorities said that the drug “has shown 100 percent inhibition of virus replication in vitro.”

    Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro Sunday announced the discovery of a high-effective treatment capable of eliminating COVID-19 and pointed out that a drug will be presented to the World Health Organization (WHO) for certification.

    The treatment, based on a molecule called TR-10, was designed by the Venezuelan Ins ute for Scientific Research (IVIC), which had been working on a cure for the past six months.

    "this molecule has been tested for COVID-19, all the research has been done. This study lasted 6 months, resulting in 100 percent annihilation of the virus", Maduro said.

    Maduro congratulated the IVIC on “this great contribution to humanity” and assured that Venezuela will offer this treatment to the world. He also pointed out that the mass production of the drug will be facilitated through “international alliances.”

    https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/...1026-0008.html

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    Im sorry this is happening to you
    Sorry you're trying to live in March like foldren.

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    Hater is one of the most prolific on this board at twisting information to suit his needs.

    Assad did not use gas on anyone, it was the US and it’s CIA led rebels.
    Assad and Putin know how to lead , just like Trump, try the authoritarian style, it’s the best system.
    Look at my dudes in Central and South America to see how it’s done.

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    South Africa travel ban announced, UK and EU travel bans to remain in place.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pe-Brazil.html

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    South Africa travel ban announced, UK and EU travel bans to remain in place.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pe-Brazil.html
    I called for this last week. Old Joe is a few days late but oh well Ill take it

    Looks like these strains are the real deal. Bojo is mentioning forcing travell3rs to quarantine in specialized hotels. I believe Joe will have to implement this as well. For non citizens to start with imo. Theres no time to waste on this. Hopefully sleepy joe wakes up.

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    Amid covid health worker shortage,
    foreign-trained professionals sit on sidelines


    a large, highly skilled workforce of foreign-educated doctors, nurses and other health prac ioners is going largely untapped due to licensing and credentialing barriers.


    165,000 foreign-trained immigrants in the U.S. hold degrees in health-related fields but

    are unemployed or underemployed in the midst of the health crisis.


    Many of these workers have invaluable experience dealing with infectious disease epidemics such as SARS, Ebola or HIV in other countries yet must sit out the covid pandemic.


    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...sidelines.aspx


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    CA gov looks like is giving up.

    Going for that herd immunity


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    Well...



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    Reports of partially vaccinated people contracting Covid may also erode confidence in the vaccines, Eckerle said: “If we fail to use this vaccine in a good way, it will damage the whole field of vaccinology for many, many years, I think.”

    Stephen Goldstein, a virologist at the University of Utah who specializes in coronaviruses, said that taking Britain’s approach at a time of limited supply of vaccine could create other problems.

    “If we vaccinate everybody with one dose and … six weeks later, the efficacy is now like 30% and we don’t have the doses to boost them at that point because we’ve used up their second doses on another round of first doses, it’s a disaster potentially,” he said.

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    We are basically making up as we go and the potential for disastrous consequences is real

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    Gavin Newsome says it's ok for Californians to get sick and die some more. Gotta keep those cash registers ringing.


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    I called for this last week. Old Joe is a few days late but oh well Ill take it

    Looks like these strains are the real deal. Bojo is mentioning forcing travell3rs to quarantine in specialized hotels. I believe Joe will have to implement this as well. For non citizens to start with imo. Theres no time to waste on this. Hopefully sleepy joe wakes up.
    what does real deal mean?

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    We are basically making up as we go and the potential for disastrous consequences is real
    Imperfect state of knowledge. Gotta do the best you can, there will be mistakes.

    Hopeully vaccine supply will permit more of a mass vaccination strategy (as contrasted with current prioritization by risk category) in the near future.

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    We are basically making up as we go and the potential for disastrous consequences is real
    We are attempting to adjust to the facts as they come in. it’s called science. And involves an attempt at gathering good information and giving out good and bad news.

    Welcome to this new world.

    You may also get some “ we don’t know yet”.
    I know this is uncomfortable for a fan of authoritarians.

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    We are attempting to adjust to the facts as they come in. it’s called science. And involves an attempt at gathering good information and giving out good and bad news.

    Welcome to this new world.

    You may also get some “ we don’t know yet”.
    I know this is uncomfortable for a fan of authoritarians.
    The idea that one forfeits credibility for all time by making even a single mistake -- even about a virus previously unknown to science -- is a very online idea propagated by very online people.

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    newsom caved... shame

    CA had been one of the better performing states in the early months while he was taking for being "too cautious." now he backs off his restrictions as the cases/deaths are piling up. leadership means you have to sometimes make difficult decisions that could be temporarily unpopular.

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    Imperfect state of knowledge. Gotta do the best you can, there will be mistakes.

    Hopeully vaccine supply will permit more of a mass vaccination strategy (as contrasted with current prioritization by risk category) in the near future.
    Phase 3 trials is where vaccination mistakes should be made. Not in the real world.

    1st world countries just scrambling to save their economies, thus why they are ok with turning the world unto a real life laboratory.

    As outlined, the consequenses can be disastrous, as in the whole vacvination scheme could derail to a point of not being fixable

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    The idea that one forfeits credibility for all time by making even a single mistake -- even about a virus previously unknown to science -- is a very online idea propagated by very online people.
    I feel it’s pretty ubiquitous in politics which is sad.
    it’s considered a weakness to come out and say “we will make mistakes, we will adjust those mistakes because this is the way the world works. but we will not use information we know is wrong to make decisions”

    It’s too bad people with skittish confidence can’t handle the truth. it results in the election of very poor leaders it seems. , I don’t know what it is with people who have a need for believing the most outlandish information. I know this is being looked into; to try to understand why people are so enamored with the bizarre conjectures.

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    Phase 3 trials is where vaccination mistakes should be made. Not in the real world.

    1st world countries just scrambling to save their economies, thus why they are ok with turning the world unto a real life laboratory.

    As outlined, the consequenses can be disastrous, as in the whole vacvination scheme could derail to a point of not being fixable
    And you don’t understand that the consequences of crashing economies can result in an inability to function and also result in poor Health consequences. we have learned that there is some balance but finding this balance is very difficult.

    these are not all or nothing responses. you don’t worry about the source of water you are using when the house is burning down. In a perfect world these vaccines would be tested for years and years. We don’t have that time.

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    This is basically becomikg a flu. Reinfection to new strains will be commonplace.



    That immunity you thought u had after having covid, well its gone.

    No wonder there are rumblings of having everybcitizen use kn95 type masks from now on.

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    This is basically becomikg a flu. Reinfection to new strains will be commonplace.



    That immunity you thought u had after having covid, well its gone.

    No wonder there are rumblings of having everybcitizen use kn95 type masks from now on.

    It’s way too early to say this.
    You enjoy panic and disaster stories.

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    Damn, gotta hit up Copacabana some day, tbh

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    Gavin Newsome says it's ok for Californians to get sick and die some more. Gotta keep those cash registers ringing.

    He caved... I thought he was socialist though!

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