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    I didn't help 99.9% of people that naturally recovered from covid and have no lingering issues.
    Support that figure or retract it. You just made that figure up.

    "Death" and "not affected at all" do not describe the range of possible outcomes.

    Seems your feelings are interfering with what you say about COVID, but that's been true all along.

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    Your doombag story makes "better" news, I suppose.
    It's an academic study about long COVID. Sure made you whine.

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    I'll circle back when the picture becomes clearer, but it *looks like* we're taking a really big chance reopening schools for in-person learning.



    With the more recent large-scale random sample testing performed in the UK, Sweden, and the US, we now know the following facts:

    1. The secondary COVID-19 attack rate – that is, the rate at which the coronavirus spreads – was actually higher for both elementary and high school students than adults when the schools were open for in-person instruction between April to November in England (ONS Household Infection Survey).[v]

    2. Both elementary and high school children were far more likely than adults (2x and 7x, respectively) to be the first case in their households rather than the adults between April-December in England.[vi]

    3. The spread of infections among school-age children and in the community closely tracked school openings and closures as well as attendance, with the prevalence of infection being highest in these groups compared to all other age groups while schools were open and tiered restrictions for broader society remained in place. Importantly, particularly with the new variants, growth of the pandemic continued in regions where these variants were prevalent even as other ins utions were shut down in the national lockdown in November.[vii]These statistics were mirrored in a recent study on the risk of coronavirus spreading in U.S. schools.[viii]

    4. Increases in the prevalence of infection among school-age groups preceded rises of infection in other age groups. This has a vital implication; the new studies suggest that infections among children at school do not just reflect infection rates in the community. Rather, they drive increases in infection within the community through spreading from schools into homes, and from there to the broader community.

    5. Claims that teachers do not face serious risks are simply false. The risks of infection turned out to be two times greater for teachers of in-person classes relative to those conducting virtual online classes in Sweden.[ix] The study also found an approximately 40% higher infection risk in England in those in teaching occupations compared to those in non-teaching occupations, even when schools were only partly open (REACT-1 study).[x]

    6. Several studies also show an increased risk of infection among parents of primary and secondary school children being taught in-person within schools.[xi]

    7. The spread of new, more easily transmitted and more deadly variants underscores the true dimensions of the threat from in-person school instruction. With the new B.1.1.7 variant now surging in many parts of the world, variant cases continued to rise with an R=1.45 (compared to an R of only 0.9 for non-B.1.1.7 variants) even during national lockdown while schools were open. R only dropped below 1 – a critical level for controlling the rate of infection – following complete school closures. The numerous outbreaks linked with B.1.1.7 in school settings across the globe over the past few weeks are of grave concern.

    8. Between 12-15% of primary and secondary school children had one or more persisting symptoms 5 weeks after infection, according to an ONS survey that took care to examine all infections, including asymptomatic infections.[xii] Before that study appeared, it had been widely thought that because mortality is low among children exposed to SARS-CoV-2, that children are not impacted. Given we know so little about the long-term implications of “long COVID” syndromes, which at least in adults have been often associated with organ dysfunction, it is important to adopt the precautionary principle, and reckon with long COVID related outcomes in addition to deaths.

    9. Recent evidence supports the role of mitigations in reducing the impact of transmission within schools. However, it is clear that multi-layered protections are needed, rather than single or a few measures, as the risk reduction is associated with the number of mitigations in place.[xiii]
    https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspe...d-be-dangerous

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    search "long covid in children", even in initially asymptomatic children

    forcing unvaccinated school staff back to work with 100s, 1000s of kids, closed classrooms, is criminal, but that's the nature of many politicians.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 03-20-2021 at 10:17 AM.

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    Lowy bodies found in the brains of primates, post-infection.

    This is a preprint study, so more info is needed. Also, the results of primate studies might or might not apply to humans.

    The point is long term effects of COVID aren't well known yet.

    These data emphasize the virus’ capability to induce neuropathology in this nonhuman primate model for SARS-CoV-2 infection. As in humans Lewy body formation is an indication for the development of Parkinson’s disease, this data represents a warning for potential long-term neurological effects after SARS-CoV-2 infection.
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...02.23.432474v1

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    not even close, remove the blinders and read something for a change.

    science on COVID is a work in porgress, wer're learning new stuff all the time.
    lol you're posting that has been discussed hundreds of pages ago

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    I didn't give those people long COVID
    it's not called long COVID, they're called long haulers for a reason. It's possible it's not COVID but a side effect of the immunoresponse

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    it's not called long COVID, they're called long haulers for a reason. It's possible it's not COVID but a side effect of the immunoresponse
    I'll cease from what the newspapers call it if that bothers you.

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    lol you're posting that has been discussed hundreds of pages ago
    if it's still relevant, why not discuss it now?

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    France and Poland reimpose lockdowns, Germany on deck.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56466223

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    Andy Borowitz

    Fauci Warns That Vaccines Alone Will Not Rid Nation of Rand Paul


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    Healthy young people living their lives. As they should.

    I know this infuriates paranoid unhealthy fat s.

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    Darrin constantly masturbating here

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    Healthy young people living their lives. As they should.

    I know this infuriates paranoid unhealthy fat s.

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    :40 lol


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    Dip s wearing masks outdoors.

    That dumb reporter doesn't follow the science.

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    I don't get the shaming of wearing masks outside.

    But you guys need to stroke yourselves constantly.

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    I don't get the shaming of wearing masks outside.

    But you guys need to stroke yourselves constantly.

    You can keep wearing your PPE wherever you want.

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    You can keep wearing your PPE wherever you want.
    So why the shaming, Darrin?

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    Tell me about all those do ented cases of outdoor transmission.

    I'll wait

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    Tell me about all those do ented cases of outdoor transmission.

    I'll wait
    I'm waiting for you to tell me why you feel the need to shame people wearing masks, Darrin.

    Well?

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    Its shocking to me how many people are irrationality scared less of this virus. Especially, you younger dudes in Austin.

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    Its shocking to me how many people are irrationality scared less of this virus. Especially, you younger dudes in Austin.
    But why are you shaming people who wear masks?

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