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    TC won't tell his cult mob, but has anti-vaxxer Carlson been vaccinated?

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    I remember this being more of a thing early on when hospitals were loaded.
    I dont think it happens as much now. Its also age dependent, now younger people make up a larger % of cases.
    If they even get far enough to see or hear a doctor to explain what type of breathing problems. Some people just dont know whats bad before its way late. Some people think its allergies and their nose is stuffed up. People react to being sick very differently: Im fine (they can barely move), or the go to the doc just to talk (some older folks like to visit)

    Anywhose... its wide ranging imo.

    aside as to not take up too many threads:

    You posted to me you dont get out of the boat to wade fish? whats up?
    Manage mildly ill patients at home
    When possible, manage mildly ill patients with COVID-19 at home.

    Assess the patient’s ability to safely self-isolate and monitor their symptoms at home and assess the risk of the virus spreading to others in the patient’s home environment.
    Provide clear instructions to caregivers and people who are sick regarding home care, including when and how to access the healthcare system for in-person care or urgent/emergent conditions.
    Identify staff to monitor patients at home with daily check-ins using telephone calls, texts, patient portals, or other means, if possible.
    Engage local public health resources, home health services, and community organizations to assist with support services (such as delivery of food, medication, and other goods) for patients isolating at home.
    (from the CDC)

    When you see an 8 foot bull shark take a 30" redfish from you 4' away in one gulp, you get second thoughts about wading. That said, I've been getting back into it with a guide/friend and re-learning how to read the water, wind and tide currents.

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    This makes no sense to me, how does excluding asymptomatic breakthroughs "improve the data?"

    Looks like it excludes the data most threatening to the manufacturer.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ugh-cases.html

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    tucker doesnt gaf. he says whatever he does to maximize ratings. he knows that in addition to QOP covid denial, there's a big pool of anti-vaxxers who go across party lines. draw those views as well.

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    Tucker has 100% been vaccinated

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    In April, the CDC issued new guidance to laboratories recommending reducing the RT-PCR CT value to 28 cycles — but only for those fully vaccinated individuals being tested for COVID.

    In an RT-PCR test — the gold standard for detecting SARS-CoV-2 — RNA is extracted from the swab collected from the patient. It is then converted into DNA, which is then amplified.

    CT, or cycle threshold, is a value that emerges during RT-PCR tests. A CT value refers to the number of cycles needed to amplify viral RNA to reach a detectable level.

    According to the Indian Council of Medical Research, a patient is considered positive for COVID if the CT value is below 35. In other words, if the virus is detectable after 35 cycles or earlier, then the patient is considered positive.

    Dr. Anthony Fauci recommends a CT value of 35. Globally, the accepted cut-off for CT value for COVID ranges between 35 and 40, depending on instructions from manufacturers of testing equipment.

    “If the benchmark were to be lowered to 24 it would mean that CT values in the range 25-34 would not be considered positive,” according to the Indian Council of Medical Research, as reported by The Indian Express. “A benchmark of 35, therefore, means that more patients would be considered positive than we would get if the benchmark were 24.”

    In other words, lowering CT threshold parameter may lead to missing infectious persons.


    Well that's one way to make cases go down

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    In April, the CDC issued new guidance to laboratories recommending reducing the RT-PCR CT value to 28 cycles — but only for those fully vaccinated individuals being tested for COVID.

    In an RT-PCR test — the gold standard for detecting SARS-CoV-2 — RNA is extracted from the swab collected from the patient. It is then converted into DNA, which is then amplified.

    CT, or cycle threshold, is a value that emerges during RT-PCR tests. A CT value refers to the number of cycles needed to amplify viral RNA to reach a detectable level.

    According to the Indian Council of Medical Research, a patient is considered positive for COVID if the CT value is below 35. In other words, if the virus is detectable after 35 cycles or earlier, then the patient is considered positive.

    Dr. Anthony Fauci recommends a CT value of 35. Globally, the accepted cut-off for CT value for COVID ranges between 35 and 40, depending on instructions from manufacturers of testing equipment.

    “If the benchmark were to be lowered to 24 it would mean that CT values in the range 25-34 would not be considered positive,” according to the Indian Council of Medical Research, as reported by The Indian Express. “A benchmark of 35, therefore, means that more patients would be considered positive than we would get if the benchmark were 24.”

    In other words, lowering CT threshold parameter may lead to missing infectious persons.


    Well that's one way to make cases go down
    to be fair we only had so many cases because we test too much!

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    the quality of Repugs who served all 4 years for Trash

    Peter Navarro Pushes Batty Conspiracy Theory That Dr. Fauci Has ‘Killed Millions of Americans’

    Peter Navarro hates Dr. Anthony Fauci.

    Navarro just offered plenty by pronouncing Fauci the “father” of the coronavirus,

    claiming Fauci wanted to “weaponize” it, and

    somehow assigning him blame for for “millions” of Americans dying.

    appeared on Steve Bannon’s podcast

    to bash Fauci with the
    false insinuation that the NIAID helped create the coronavirus by funding research at the Wuhan Ins ute of Virology.

    Navarro claimed Fauci and Daszak were involved in the process to “weaponize” viruses,

    and that Fauci was setting up his colleague to be a “fall guy.”

    Even after the Trump presidency ended, Navarro has kept railing at Fauci by
    calling him “the father of the virus” and

    claiming “He allowed the Chinese Communist Party, the People’s Liberation Army to genetically engineer a virus using gain of function.”

    Fauci wanted to weaponize the virus.

    He is the father of it.

    He has killed millions of Americans if that thing came from the lab, and now it’s 99.99 percent sure it did.”

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/peter-...-of-americans/

    Spain detected covid-19 in March 2019

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    Damn, hater called it

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    to be fair we only had so many cases because we test too much!
    Testing has been going down since January

    Test less and call positive tests negative

    Biden's America

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    Testing has been going down since January

    Test less and call positive tests negative

    Biden's America
    undertesting, confused messaging and massaging the numbers are points of continuity rather than contrast, imho

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    Testing has been going down since January

    Test less and call positive tests negative

    Biden's America
    promises made, promises kept tbh

    most promises kept in the first 100 days in US history

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    to be fair we only had so many cases because we test too much!
    There's some truth to the notion that more testing = more cases. If someone told you that we had a lot of COVID infected people in the US who have gone untested, you'd probably not doubt it. Therefore it stands to reason that more testing would mean more cases, since cases are confirmed through testing.

    It's amusing how people (like you) seem to take the common sense approach on some things but go re on others based purely on who said it.

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    There's some truth to the notion that more testing = more cases. If someone told you that we had a lot of COVID infected people in the US who have gone untested, you'd probably not doubt it. Therefore it stands to reason that more testing would mean more cases, since cases are confirmed through testing.

    It's amusing how people (like you) seem to take the common sense approach on some things but go re on others based purely on who said it.
    i've been being glib the last several posts. thats usually the type of interaction snakeboy is looking for

    i'm well aware that positive tests can only happen when there are tests

    but i support your right to leave this kind of response because its your freedom of speech

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    DMC's jihad broke his sarcasm detector

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    i've been being glib the last several posts. thats usually the type of interaction snakeboy is looking for

    i'm well aware that positive tests can only happen when there are tests

    but i support your right to leave this kind of response because its your freedom of speech
    Pretend you never supported the re ed notion that more testing != more cases.

    Wait, you've done that already.

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    Smdh

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    In 2021…GDP in zero-Covid countries will be 6.2 points higher than its 2019 level. In Europe, it will be 3.4 points lower. In total, countries pursuing ‘zero Covid’ gained ten percentage points of GDP compared to Europe
    https://voxeu.org/article/aiming-zer...conomic-growth

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    Pretend you never supported the re ed notion that more testing != more cases.

    Wait, you've done that already.
    keep pouting. its a good look for you.

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    Dont go in that rabbit hole.

    I dont advise it

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    There's some truth to the notion that more testing = more cases.
    What you mean is more testing = more reported cases. The cases exist whether it was reported or not.

    The problem with under-reporting is that it makes it that much more difficult to both get a notion of the scale of the problem and properly allocate resources to combat it as well.

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