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    What?

    You made the claim about not knowing were it comes from when its patently clear its RNA SEQUENCE is related to other viruses that have already shown an animal to human jump! Dont try to get out of the pure you wrote.

    And it getting out of a lab... where did the lab find the virus? Then we can see how off you are on this whole ordeal.
    Again, you FOOL, nobody is arguing that COVID-19 was created out of thin air. Who is making that claim? There are strains of COVID that are naturally occurring. If a strain is modified through gain of function research, it does not have a natural origin.

    Who is arguing that China manufactured COVID-19 out of thin air?

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    What?

    You made the claim about not knowing were it comes from when its patently clear its RNA SEQUENCE is related to other viruses that have already shown an animal to human jump! Dont try to get out of the pure you wrote.

    And it getting out of a lab... where did the lab find the virus? Then we can see how off you are on this whole ordeal.
    Again, you FOOL, nobody is arguing that COVID-19 was created out of thin air. Who is making that claim? There are strains of COVID that are naturally occurring. If a strain is modified through gain of function research, it does not have a natural origin.

    Who is arguing that China manufactured COVID-19 out of thin air?

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    Again, you FOOL, nobody is arguing that COVID-19 was created out of thin air. Who is making that claim? There are strains of COVID that are naturally occurring. If a strain is modified through gain of function research, it does not have a natural origin.

    Who is arguing that China manufactured COVID-19 out of thin air?
    This is pure bull .
    Tell me how it is altered and then made functionally to kill so many people.
    And again, you can tell if a virus has been altered in a lab as wild viruses have mistakes, we can follow these mistakes and ID different strains. This is how we have a name for all the different strains. You are telling me a lab is altering all these strains and as well as the original and then getting these altered forms into the human population how?

    This is just bull you are throwing out.

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    And follow up what you expect to see in the RNA sequence when a lab tries to make it functional...? What would you do to change the RNA sequence?
    This is just ridiculous . We should be able to readily tell what was produced by natural selection and what was produced in a lab. So go ahead, explain.

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    WE SHOULD be able to tell if these variants were fiddled with in a lab versus produced by natural selection.
    You are throwing out some very new crazy research.

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    I did quite well on Ramen for a while when there was still concern about the virus in take out. It was also from walmart. I also got green beans and other stuff... the green beans from walmart were loaded with stems and , it was awful. I knew I stayed away for a reason, but the Walmart aisles were WIDE open, they had a very efficient system of getting in and out. The HEB I go to has very tight aisles so I stayed away in the early days.

    But thats it for my Walmart adventure, that was some awful crap in the canned food section. Its pretty clear why they get their stuff so cheap. Also they put cans up that are smashed, almost breached that you cant even get a can opener clear around it. I know the store is cheaper and people need food, but damn... its poor house level, next step down is eating sawdust.

    The refried beans with low fat definitely need ing up. Bacon fat is a good idea. On nachos though, I dont care because you can get grease from the cheese and e it up with other stuff. Lots of ways to make good nachos with not so good refries. I always get these drive by eaters in my house taking my nachos from me after coming home with some take out I dont like.
    Dollar General was great during the worst of the pandemic. Not the best selection, but went at 8AM on a Saturday when no one else was there and got $5 off $25 for just about anything I'd need to get through the next week.

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    Dollar General was great during the worst of the pandemic. Not the best selection, but went at 8AM on a Saturday when no one else was there and got $5 off $25 for just about anything I'd need to get through the next week.
    The one closest to me closed before the pandemic.
    The walmart was fairly open especially during odd hours, I was looking just to make sure to get in and out quickly with the fewest people and the largest spacing since we just did not know much about the virus. That was definitely not fun. But I did get quite creative with my cooking, started eating some fairly odd combinations that were not bad.

    I stayed away from the fast food for a long time, first because we did not know, and then because the lines were absolutely ridiculous. Actually probably done me some good. I eat healthier and dont rush about as much.

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    brain damage even in "mild' cases. it ain't the seasonal flu.





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    WE SHOULD be able to tell if these variants were fiddled with in a lab versus produced by natural selection.
    You are throwing out some very new crazy research.
    last year, lost of DNA people looked at covid-19 and said there was no way it was created in lab.

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    The Delta Variant Could Create “Two Americas” Of COVID

    If you are fully vaccinated, you are most likely to be safe.

    But in parts of the US where few people have gotten COVID vaccine shots, the Delta variant could trigger renewed deadly surges.

    That divide is driven in large part by partisan politics,

    with vaccination rates highest in liberal cities and

    lowest in conservative strongholds across the Deep South and in rural areas across the nation.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...n-covid-surges

    Repug/evangelical policies are homicidal.

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    NBC News reports that “virtually all hospitalized COVID patients” are unvaccinated,

    and it’s not just unvaccinated adults who are at risk for severe illness.

    “In our local hospitals the kids that are getting sick are the ones that are not vaccinated,”

    Medical centers say there's also an

    obvious change in the age of their sickest patients,

    as older people are much more likely to be vaccinated than younger.

    In the last six months, the share of 18 to 49-year-olds being hospitalized for COVID-19 has doubled

    Tennessee ... a joint Government Operations Committee meeting Wednesday,

    lodging complaints and

    threatening to dissolve or “recons ute” the department’s responsibilities

    in response to its efforts to vaccinate Tennesseans against the deadly coronavirus.

    teen vaccinations in states that voted for Joe Biden are far outpacing those in states that went for Trump

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/donald-trump-covid-19-vaccines-children


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    NBC News reports that “virtually all hospitalized COVID patients” are unvaccinated,

    and it’s not just unvaccinated adults who are at risk for severe illness.

    “In our local hospitals the kids that are getting sick are the ones that are not vaccinated,”

    Medical centers say there's also an

    obvious change in the age of their sickest patients,

    as older people are much more likely to be vaccinated than younger.

    In the last six months, the share of 18 to 49-year-olds being hospitalized for COVID-19 has doubled

    Tennessee ... a joint Government Operations Committee meeting Wednesday,

    lodging complaints and

    threatening to dissolve or “recons ute” the department’s responsibilities

    in response to its efforts to vaccinate Tennesseans against the deadly coronavirus.

    teen vaccinations in states that voted for Joe Biden are far outpacing those in states that went for Trump

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/donald-trump-covid-19-vaccines-children

    You always drag out the kids when you get desperate...newspaper headlines/NY Times>>>"End of the World: Children Hit Hardest, BLM Second Hardest. Whites Flee to the Moon."

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    You always drag out the kids when you get desperate...newspaper headlines/NY Times>>>"End of the World: Children Hit Hardest, BLM Second Hardest. Whites Flee to the Moon."
    The selfish nature of many boomers has made itself relevant.
    What does kissing the flag mean to you? Thanks for helping me be selfish?

    United effort... you have completely abandoned the thought and are somehow convinced Trump was not given a chance. That is pure BS. He blew his own chance by a complete misunderstanding of what leadership means. The twitter tirades and constant lies undermined any confidence as a leader. The only way he was going to lead was by coming an authoritarian, which he tried, and it was an utter failure. Your own party got torn apart by a megalomaniac.

    This is what happens when a spoiled child is put in a position of leadership. You seriously cannot see what it takes to be a leader in a democratic country? Trump had no clue. He got elected by creating fear in people like you and then showing strongman tactics that you actually started to like. You might need a new country. You seriously bought into white fear. Thats just BS.

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    The Delta Variant Could Create “Two Americas” Of COVID

    If you are fully vaccinated, you are most likely to be safe.

    But in parts of the US where few people have gotten COVID vaccine shots, the Delta variant could trigger renewed deadly surges.

    That divide is driven in large part by partisan politics,

    with vaccination rates highest in liberal cities and

    lowest in conservative strongholds across the Deep South and in rural areas across the nation.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...n-covid-surges

    Repug/evangelical policies are homicidal.
    One can only hope that anti-vaxxers weed themselves out via covid.

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    on deck: Novavax

    Results from a Phase 3 clinical trial enrolling 29,960 adult volunteers in the United States and Mexico show that the investigational vaccine known as NVX-CoV2373 demonstrated 90.4% efficacy in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 disease. The candidate showed 100% protection against moderate and severe disease. In people at high risk of developing complications from COVID-19 (people 65 years or older and people under age 65 with certain comorbidities or with likely regular exposure to COVID-19), the vaccine showed 91.0% efficacy in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 disease.


    Safety data indicate the investigational vaccine was generally well-tolerated. Mild-to-moderate injection site pain and tenderness were the most common local symptoms among participants, and fatigue, headache and muscle pain lasting less than two days were the most common systemic symptoms.
    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...vents-covid-19

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    hospitalization and death aren't the only measures of disease

    The acute clinical manifestations of COVID-19 have been well characterized1,2, but the post-acute sequelae of this disease have not been comprehensively described. Here we use the national healthcare databases of the US Department of Veterans Affairs to systematically and comprehensively identify 6-month incident sequelae—including diagnoses, medication use and laboratory abnormalities—in patients with COVID-19 who survived for at least 30 days after diagnosis. We show that beyond the first 30 days of illness, people with COVID-19 exhibit a higher risk of death and use of health resources. Our high-dimensional approach identifies incident sequelae in the respiratory system, as well as several other sequelae that include nervous system and neurocognitive disorders, mental health disorders, metabolic disorders, cardiovascular disorders, gastrointestinal disorders, malaise, fatigue, musculoskeletal pain and anaemia. We show increased incident use of several therapeutic agents—including pain medications (opioids and non-opioids) as well as antidepressant, anxiolytic, antihypertensive and oral hypoglycaemic agents—as well as evidence of laboratory abnormalities in several organ systems. Our analysis of an array of prespecified outcomes reveals a risk gradient that increases according to the severity of the acute COVID-19 infection (that is, whether patients were not hospitalized, hospitalized or admitted to intensive care). Our findings show that a substantial burden of health loss that spans pulmonary and several extrapulmonary organ systems is experienced by patients who survive after the acute phase of COVID-19.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03553-9

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    These efficacy press releases are bull

    They require at least 2 symptoms AND a positive covid test. How many of these ppl will bother getting covid tested by a mild fever, headache or cough doubt many.

    Also the 90% # is garbage. They are comparing placebo positives to non placebo. It should actually be placebo vs placebo and non vs non. To get accurate result. And that drops efficacy closer to 70%

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    what's the incidence of serious adverse reactions, hater?

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    what's the incidence of serious adverse reactions, hater?
    Probably around the same as serious covid adverse reactions to non vaxxed kids tbqh

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    Probably around the same as serious covid adverse reactions to non vaxxed kids tbqh
    just stirring

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    Facts bad now


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    the e protein damages cells throughout the body

    LA JOLLA—Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “ e” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that the virus e proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.


    The paper, published on April 30, 2021, in Circulation Research, also shows conclusively that COVID-19 is a vascular disease, demonstrating exactly how the SARS-CoV-2 virus damages and attacks the vascular system on a cellular level. The findings help explain COVID-19’s wide variety of seemingly unconnected complications, and could open the door for new research into more effective therapies.


    Representative images of vascular endothelial control cells (left) and cells treated with the SARS-CoV-2 e protein (right) show that the e protein causes increased mitochondrial fragmentation in vascular cells.
    Click here for a high-resolution image.
    Credit: Salk Ins ute“A lot of people think of it as a respiratory disease, but it’s really a vascular disease,” says Assistant Research Professor Uri Manor, who is co-senior author of the study. “That could explain why some people have strokes, and why some people have issues in other parts of the body. The commonality between them is that they all have vascular underpinnings.”
    https://www.salk.edu/news-release/th...le-in-illness/

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