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    an R > 0 means its not erradicated, Einstein

    Its impossibke to erradicate this. Agreed?
    Neither me nor ElNono have suggested COVID will be eradicated in the near term.

    It was intuitively clear to me last year tha COVID would become endemic when containment failed and community transmission became uncontrolled.

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    We didn't get rid of alpha. Delta out competed it.
    Correct.

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    an R > 0 means its not erradicated, Einstein

    Its impossibke to erradicate this. Agreed?
    I don't disagree, because even making the claim of complete eradication is virtually impossible to support (ie: how can you possible know?)

    That said, there's a huge amount of levels between complete eradication and the current COVID situation, agree?

    If we can manage to get it to polio/TB levels, or even Flu-like mortality levels, then this is pretty much no longer a concern.

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    It's one country at a time. Again, nobody claimed this is going to dissappear overnight everywhere.

    see: Ebola, Polio, Tuberculosis, etc. None of those got wiped from everywhere instantly. Most countries no longer have to deal with them, however, nor require their population to be in the lookout for them.
    one country at a time

    So we gonna kill this one country at a time..



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    We didn't get rid of alpha. Delta out competed it.
    How so? We have the data that can measurably say Alpha was being successfully being beat. You've seen the charts.

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    one country at a time

    So we gonna kill this one country at a time..

    Not sure what's so funny? How did we ended up controlling Ebola, Polio, TB? Do tell.

    Ebola is still a problem in some African countries. When was the last time you tested yourself for Ebola?

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    Lol "was being"

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    Not sure what's so funny? How did we ended up controlling Ebola, Polio, TB? Do tell.

    Ebola is still a problem in some African countries. When was the last time you tested yourself for Ebola?
    if ebola had been airborne and as.contagious as Covid then wed be currently cannibalizing ourselves of.hunger.

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    Lol "was being"
    Of course it was. That's why your pinch-cushion ass got a vaccine with a 96% effectiveness rate (against Alpha).

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    How so? We have the data that can measurably say Alpha was being successfully being beat. You've seen the charts.
    In the Darrin universe, phenomena are relilably determined by single variables that magically chime with daily right wing talking points or his prior beliefs.

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    if ebola had been airborne and as.contagious as Covid then wed be currently cannibalizing ourselves of.hunger.
    Wot?

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    Of course it was. That's why your pinch-cushion ass got a vaccine with a 96% effectiveness rate (against Alpha).
    We.were kicking little brothers ass.until big bro came and wupped.us.

    We.are.now confident we will eventually kick big bros ass eventually.


    And hope big daddy doesnt show up

    Todays virus erradication strategiez

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    if ebola had been airborne and as.contagious as Covid then wed be currently cannibalizing ourselves of.hunger.
    Impossible to prove. But your whole argument rests in that this is a 8 billion population world that travels and thus spreads disease. Ebola transmits by simple contact, for example. We're not talking HIV here.

    Yet, in most countries, Ebola has been under control for a long ass time, with minor flares that get contained right away, and the population in most countries completely oblivious to it.

    So things can get better. It's not quick, and it's not overnight, it takes time, but it's not impossible. Look at the flu for the same thing. Mortality has come down to controlled levels.

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    We.were kicking little brothers ass.until big bro came and wupped.us.

    We.are.now confident we will eventually kick big bros ass eventually.

    And hope big daddy doesnt show up

    Todays virus erradication strategiez
    Today we have DNA sequencing and working vaccines within 1-2 years... you should brush up on how things were a 100 years ago.

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    Today we have DNA sequencing and working vaccines within 1-2 years... you should brush up on how things were a 100 years ago.
    Great so we will have a Delta killer vaccine by end of 2022

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    What would be good is to avoid unforced errors like give the virus ample time and hosts to continue mutating. Then we're wasting time and causing avoidable deaths.

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    Vaccinated hater trying to on vaccines.


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    Great so we will have a Delta killer vaccine by end of 2022
    The original flu pandemic was in 1918, the original vaccine was developed in 1940, and only used in civilians by 1945. By 1947 it became obvious the virus has been mutating and the vaccine wasn't as effective.

    In 1957 the first mutation showed up, which triggered another pandemic that killed 1.1 million people globally. Took almost 3 years to develop new effective vaccines, based on the first ones.

    Then in 1968, a new mutation showed up and triggered yet another pandemic with another 1 million people dead globally.

    Since then, there has been relatively minor flare ups like H1N1 or avian flu.

    So:
    - We're in a much, much better place to handle this than in the past.
    - We need to learn from the past. If we can avoid it, don't let the virus fester and mutate.
    - Getting this under control doesn't happen overnight.

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    So now you're moving the goalpost because you were wrong.
    How long you been reading Karrin's ?

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    Vaccinated hater trying to on vaccines.

    Yeah hater got vaccinated like DarrinS voted for Obama.

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    Fauci and Walenski must have whiplash after so many mask flip flops.







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    How long you been reading Karrin's ?
    his whole ST raison d'etre is to be recognized as smarter than anyone whoever lived and said anything about any subject on the planet and memory holing any time he was, in fact, completely wrong.

    Having it pointed out to him kills him, just like it does DMC and TSA.

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    Is this real? The "unpublished data" they based their decision on was a preprint from India

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    I'd personally like to thank sailorrooscout for all the work he/she/they/it did promoting vaccines.

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