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That's great news! Hopefully it stays that way cuz Trump
Le chloroniqué
I'm sure they took it down once they saw the report saying the French study was hot garbage. Anyone who actually read it had to know it was worthless. The show continues.
You mean the anecdotal report of 11 patients that was designed to give poor results?
Anecdotes good now
I am LITERALLY shaking! Anybody else??
I don't see us ever returning back to society in years much less a few months. Might as well quarantine everyone up to a decade. Shut everything down. PLEEAASE.!!! Just call in the National Guard and have them deliver food to us once every three days....everyone gets to leave their house for exercise once a month for 10 minutes ONLY. If anybody exceeds that, have the National Guard shoot them on site. In 20 years, MAYBE we can revisit letting people out. I don't care if everyone loses their job. That's the only way we can beat this, we can't sacrifice a single life.
If you disagree with me you are literally Hitler like BadOrangeman
Yep. Bigger numbers are harder to double than smaller numbers. But like Silver implied, no good news right now. We're probably entering a plateau, and who knows how long that could stretch. If it's a month, that equals about 60K deaths over the next 30 days.
Def not good news,but expected
Designed?
Explain.
I'm talking about the original 36 patient study that was just retracted by its publisher.
I prefer Warren but she would do.
Anyone but Klobuchar would be ok. I am praying it is not her.
Anecdotes have never been great for science.
That jibes completely with the article.
Maybe you should try reading it.
Let me know if you're still having trouble. I'd be glad to dumb it down for you.
Are you for or against the parallel track approach?
I thought you were talking about the 11 pt study
No
Statement on IJAA paper
Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial (Gautret P et al. PMID 32205204)
ISAC shares the concerns regarding the above article published recently in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents (IJAA). The ISAC Board believes the article does not meet the Society’s expected standard, especially relating to the lack of better explanations of the inclusion criteria and the triage of patients to ensure patient safety.
Despite some suggestions online as to the reliability of the article's peer review process, the process did adhere to the industry's peer review rules. Given his role as Editor in Chief of this journal, Jean-Marc Rolain had no involvement in the peer review of the manuscript and has no access to information regarding its peer review. Full responsibility for the manuscript's peer review process was delegated to an Associate Editor.
Although ISAC recognises it is important to help the scientific community by publishing new data fast, this cannot be at the cost of reducing scientific scrutiny and best practices. Both Editors in Chief of our journals (IJAA and Journal of Global Antimicrobial Resistance) are in full agreement.
Andreas Voss
ISAC President
https://www.isac.world/news-and-publ...isac-statement
I mean all the problems were apparent right off the bat. It should have had a caveat every time it was cited or mentioned.
Let's get to some good news.
Texas doesn't show any indication of going super exponential.
At day 16, NY was at 1550 deaths and Texas is at 189 deaths.
Despite DeSantis's ery and all the Spring Break brouhaha, FL is also holding firm. They had their most deaths 6 days ago (thus far). We basically don't want to see some trend like 30 to 45 to 70 to 100 to 120 to 150, etc. Florida is showing no indication so far of that progression.
California is also trending good. Vs. New York at their respective 23 days since death 10, CA is at 495 and NY is at 5489. Governor Newsom also sent 500 ventilators to different states, so their projections must be looking positive in order to do that.
And in addition to these large states doing well, a lot of the Southwest and Midwest states with smaller populations aren't seeing any es. The Northeast and Upper Midwest (IL, MI) aren't trending good. Let's just hope the combination of weather, mass transit use, population density and such proves to be beneficial over the next month and keeps CA, TX, and FL from rapid exponential growth.
Do you mean using it now while we study it? I'm OK with that. I'll defer to the doctors judgement on that, though. I honestly don't know when the side effects are applicable. I just don't want the president talking about it.
^ just from what I'm seeing it looks like population density is the biggest beneficial plus of being in Texas
Is there a global chart you happen to know of with population density trends?
No, but that would be worth exploring, although you could never get a true 1 to 1 comparison, since mitigation efforts, social behavior, and climate all most likely play a role. San Francisco is the 2nd most dense city in the US and is in that green climate band this time of year, and they have only 10 deaths in the city (scaling their pop to NY's, that gives them a 100 deaths). So we definitely have to credit the mayor's quick lockdown with curbing their growth early.
That's literally cuz Trump
Well if you get a serious case of the Covid don't mention treatment with Hydroxychloroquine/Zithro or Remdesevir to your doctor. Hopefully they won't mention it either and it will be like Trump never talked about them at all.
SnakeBoy's getting paranoid about people just practicing good judgment. Wishing ill on posters koriwhat-style.
Gonna have to post the "hope the medicine works" disclaimer somewhere in this thread too
See if we can get a sign-on thread stickied to the top so they don't forget.
Hadn't seen that.
So they didn't retract the study, thanks.
Do you believe Doctor's should be using the treatment with informed consent (the parallel track approach)?
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