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americans always like to blame someone else when we should have been more prepared and should face the storm head on
not sure why so many americans like to and moan
its pityful
detroit could become US ground zero in 2 weeks
americans always like to blame someone else when we should have been more prepared and should face the storm head on
not sure why so many americans like to and moan
its pityful
Rural America is definitely going to be impacted less. The amount of people you can infect in NYC is just way more than in the middle of Nebraska. That being, said, rural america is older and has far less hospital capacity and will feel plenty of pain from this going forward.
I don't think we should leave them alone or blameless, there's just a time and a place for it. You said it yourself with your thread about what to do with them AFTER the pandemic is over.
I also don't think it's fair to just use them as a scapegoat for clear structural and leadership problems we had handling this pandemic.
Let's hope we can do it. But do we have the willpower to take the convenience hit for a while until we rebuild manufacturing? Will people have the discipline to mass boycott made in China products (I know it's unrealistic to boycott ALL Chinese made goods, but people refusing to buy the new iPhone or some other non-essential electronic gizmo every 6 months will sting)? Will we call on our government and corporations to actually bring manufacturing home and not just pay lip service to it?
Sure, but we were discussing ramping up and down production, and how they can ramp up much quicker than we (or any other country really) can.
Yeah, I agree with the later part of your statement. It might be less infected, but you could have much better odds of collapse there, and thus more deaths.
The ideal scenario is cities like NY are over the problem by the time it hits some rural towns and resources can be shifted.
A scapegoat is someone who isn't really to blame but is created (usually by a twisting of the facts) in order for people to have something to blame because it makes them feel better. China is 100 percent to blame. Again, I would not "blame you" for not owning a gun if a thief came and robbed you. I would blame the thief.
To what end? Put pressure on China to do things it won't do anyway?
Seems like we're just looping back around for the most part.
Because we no longer have a manufacturing base here. Maybe this will wake us up and we'll just have to deal with paying a little bit more for stuff.
España getting kicked while down.
Reported an additional 100 deaths on top of the 800 they dumped this morning.
Counties highlighted in your articleThe coronavirus is starting to hit rural America hard—here’s a map of the counties most affected
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/29/coro...-pandemic.html
[shrugs]
Sure about that?
Gunnison County, Colorado Hillary +19
Summit County, Utah Hillary +15
Blaine County. Idaho Hillary +29
To not be reliant on them. The ultimatum is either: Reform your government and we'll keep on as business as usual. Or American (and European) corporations will shutter all those factories and move them domestic or to other developing countries that are growing their manufacturing base (China isn't the only player in the manufacturing game anymore).
I didn't say China is blameless, and even if we were to agree that it's 90% their fault our response was botched, you have to look at the other 10% and assume your responsibility.
We were not ready. Our healthcare stockpiles, state and federal, were depleted. We lacked leadership at a time of crisis. The CDC and FDA were slow to react. Leadership didn't take this seriously enough until it was too late.Our healthcare system continues to debate between money and lives, even during a pandemic.
All those things you can't put on the Chinese, they're introspection issues that we have to address ourselves. Not now, after the show is over.
nobody is boycotting nig
we probably gonna order more from china now
So then you won’t be wasting too much emotional energy mourning for the people of NYC.
The problem is that it's not a little more. It's a lot more for products that take way longer to get to market. GE is now saying 1000 ventilators by the end of April. And they do want top dollar.
We simply can't put people to work here on 12 hour shifts, we really can't compete. Companies will shift to Vietnam or Honduras or 100 other countries before here.
How is Las Vegas so lowThe coronavirus is starting to hit rural America hard—here’s a map of the counties most affected
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/29/coro...-pandemic.html
[shrugs]
Sure about that?
Maybe hookers and blow are an antidote? Would explain why POTUS didn't get it.
The other diseases attacking the covid sounds just as plausible as anything else at this point
koriwhat loading up another pipe in celebration of this discovery.
And I've said many times I hope this results in us building a healthcare and pandemic response infrastructure to ensure this never happens again. But my gripe is the "Blame Trump" (and I do blame him for his botches) mentality is taking away attention from the actual culprit. And I fear the Western MSM will be so frothing at the mouth to blame Trump when this starts to settle down, China will emerge from this with their image unscathed, at least among the left. Vox leans Left, and has been taking aim at China's underhandedness, so there's hope.
I think it's fair to say China has the bulk of the blame, I just don't want Cuomo to point to them because he didn't kept his stockpile of ventilators up to date. Same for California. Same for the federal government.
Some of those people might still come on the positive side of the balance when all of this is said and done, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't learn from this, and, as you said, be more prepared.
lack of tests, even reporting of test results, means that graph is at best just a guess.
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