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    South Korea (1 Feb - 30 Mar)
    The number of deaths in South Korea has been 5% higher than average, with about 2,400 more people dying than usual.

    Official Covid-19 deaths
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    Other excess deaths
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    This was months ago. I guess they nailed it down. I wonder where they hid all the bodies.

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    Tell us about that COVID from January 2018.

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    South Korea (1 Feb - 30 Mar)
    The number of deaths in South Korea has been 5% higher than average, with about 2,400 more people dying than usual.

    Official Covid-19 deaths
    163
    Other excess deaths
    2,215

    This was months ago. I guess they nailed it down. I wonder where they hid all the bodies.
    Where do you think we are hiding all the bodies, or do you presume our government is honest, unlike all the other hole governments?

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    Why show daily deaths when it's obvious by the pattern they are not being reported completely on the weekends even though the days are still be counted? Then the numbers are tallied in the following week/s. A 7 day moving average is a better indicator. The chart should be called "daily deaths reported" instead of "daily deaths". It's misleading but for plenty on the left, that's ok since it confirms what you think you already knew.
    Did you know the CDC slacks off on weekends?

    The number of new cases reported each day fluctuates. There is generally less reporting on the weekends and holidays.
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...es-deaths.html

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    to be fair, I have no idea what HHS and Palantir are doing with the numbers now.

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    to be fair, I have no idea what HHS and Palantir are doing with the numbers now.
    does anyone?

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    Allergies: Scientists have noted children with asthma and allergies surprisingly don't seem to be at high risk of developing serious cases of COVID-19. One theory is that those children have a reduced number of ACE2 receptors, the protein the virus latches onto before replicating inside the body. Without those receptors, the virus' chance of causing damage could decrease, meaning allergies may offer protection in this case.

    Masks: Masks are discussed as a preventative measure, but they may contribute to more mild infections, as well. The most direct evidence of this theory is a comparison of two cruise ships. On the Diamond Princess, where masks weren't used, 47 percent of the positive cases were asymptomatic, whereas an Antarctic-bound Argentine cruise ship that had a similar outbreak, but provided masks to all passengers and crew, saw an 81 percent asymptomatic rate.

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    Allergies: Scientists have noted children with asthma and allergies surprisingly don't seem to be at high risk of developing serious cases of COVID-19. One theory is that those children have a reduced number of ACE2 receptors, the protein the virus latches onto before replicating inside the body. Without those receptors, the virus' chance of causing damage could decrease, meaning allergies may offer protection in this case.

    Masks: Masks are discussed as a preventative measure, but they may contribute to more mild infections, as well. The most direct evidence of this theory is a comparison of two cruise ships. On the Diamond Princess, where masks weren't used, 47 percent of the positive cases were asymptomatic, whereas an Antarctic-bound Argentine cruise ship that had a similar outbreak, but provided masks to all passengers and crew, saw an 81 percent asymptomatic rate.
    “A high rate of asymptomatic infection is a good thing,” said Gandhi, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of California at San Francisco. “It’s a good thing for the individual and a good thing for society.”

    Fortunately you wear your mask. Good boy.

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    Why show daily deaths when it's obvious by the pattern they are not being reported completely on the weekends even though the days are still be counted? Then the numbers are tallied in the following week/s. A 7 day moving average is a better indicator. The chart should be called "daily deaths reported" instead of "daily deaths". It's misleading but for plenty on the left, that's ok since it confirms what you think you already knew.
    theres a 7 day average option on worldometer



    THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

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    Tell us about that COVID from January 2018.
    there wasn't. the numbers from 2018 aren't comparable to 2020

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    How is DMC whiffing on excess deaths for a solid week now?

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    there wasn't. the numbers from 2018 aren't comparable to 2020

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    and 2018 was one of the worse flu seasons in the last couple of decades

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    and 2018 was one of the worse flu seasons in the last couple of decades
    it is striking how many people suggest we should just ignore excess death in our country as if it were something an order of magnitude less dangerous.

    And besides, we tolerate thousands of non-contagious preventable deaths per year for dangerous work conditions, shootings and driving your car. What's a half millon more deaths in 12 months?

    Just a statistic.

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    How is DMC whiffing on excess deaths for a solid week now?
    Dunno. I fed him the link twice.

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    theres a 7 day average option on worldometer



    THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
    No . It just overlays. You're still pushing panic porn over daily deaths when in reality the daily deaths aren't as high as these "record deaths" utterances indicate. Don't pretend it's the same thing, it's not. The total deaths are the same, and to take it to the extreme to prove a point, imagine all deaths from the year reported in one week as daily deaths.. WOW!

    By the way, countries that barely test but have a high percentage of positives aren't being honest. These are the percentages of total tests that resulted in cases.... sorted by country. There were 3 that were above 100 so they obviously aren't reporting correctly. You can see the "normal" testing regimen vs reporting in some of the more developed nations, but those nations with historically restrictive governments, who protect their leaders through censorship and denial, those are quite obvious too. Another interesting stat is the number of tests per 1M pop, since countries like Japan have tested such a small percentage of their total population and yet somehow have a positive rate close to Spain and France. Are they just better at testing?

    Egypt 70.734815
    Suriname 62.657233
    Guinea 55.042688
    Bolivia 47.138652
    Mexico 43.993789
    Honduras 40.825142
    Haiti 40.199651
    Afghanistan 39.967641
    Ecuador 35.358568
    Guatemala 31.220871
    Panama 30.132841
    Argentina 29.163886
    Sao Tome and Principe 27.952881
    Dominican Republic 27.468503
    Madagascar 26.982556
    Oman 26.383193
    Andorra 25.466667
    Gambia 23.827899
    Mayotte 23.600000
    Armenia 22.958401
    Brazil 22.942002
    Costa Rica 21.985554
    Qatar 21.705550
    Moldova 21.596552
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    Zambia 8.601521
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    Philippines 7.340211
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    Zimbabwe 3.104549
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    Hungary 1.301653
    Iceland 1.236759
    Botswana 1.175043
    Channel Islands 1.146864
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    Macao 1.129944
    French Polynesia 1.123779
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    and 2018 was one of the worse flu seasons in the last couple of decades
    But isn't the flu considered normal deaths per the math wizard RG? I asked how many excess deaths were there in previous years, he said none. I saw no arguments.

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    it is striking how many people suggest we should just ignore excess death in our country as if it were something an order of magnitude less dangerous.

    And besides, we tolerate thousands of non-contagious preventable deaths per year for dangerous work conditions, shootings and driving your car. What's a half millon more deaths in 12 months?

    Just a statistic.
    You don't seem to have a problem ignoring it in certain states, or in other countries you might use to compare the US to. You just seem to want to focus on excess deaths when it suits you. I'm all for proper toting of the ciphers as long as it's across the board. With NY having 25K excess deaths, there was damn near nary a peep about it but was all in the bed around Texas' relatively low excess deaths. It's all about scoring political talking points. It has nothing to do with science.

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    there wasn't. the numbers from 2018 aren't comparable to 2020
    There were excess deaths.

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    No . It just overlays. You're still pushing panic porn over daily deaths when in reality the daily deaths aren't as high as these "record deaths" utterances indicate. Don't pretend it's the same thing, it's not. The total deaths are the same, and to take it to the extreme to prove a point, imagine all deaths from the year reported in one week as daily deaths.. WOW!
    you specifically asked for the 7 day moving average

    Why show daily deaths when it's obvious by the pattern they are not being reported completely on the weekends even though the days are still be counted? Then the numbers are tallied in the following week/s. A 7 day moving average is a better indicator. The chart should be called "daily deaths reported" instead of "daily deaths". It's misleading but for plenty on the left, that's ok since it confirms what you think you already knew.
    now that you dont like that the 7 day moving average doesnt change the narrative, you're going full reeee

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    But isn't the flu considered normal deaths per the math wizard RG? I asked how many excess deaths were there in previous years, he said none. I saw no arguments.
    There were excess deaths.
    yes the flu is factored into the "expected death" models. because the flu is expected

    but 2018 ended up being one of the worst flu seasons in decades. hence there were more deaths than expected (aka excess)

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