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    You don't seem to have a problem ignoring it in certain states, or in other countries you might use to compare the US to. You just seem to want to focus on excess deaths when it suits you. I'm all for proper toting of the ciphers as long as it's across the board. With NY having 25K excess deaths, there was damn near nary a peep about it but was all in the bed around Texas' relatively low excess deaths. It's all about scoring political talking points. It has nothing to do with science.
    You couldn't be more wrong about that. I was the first person in this forum to take Cuomo to task for ing it up in NY.

    Sloppy seconds.

    You and DarrinS are laggards.

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    Plus, you're just making up at this point.

    Why not quit and be happy?

    You can't. Pobrecito DMC.

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    yes the flu is factored into the "expected death" models. because the flu is expected

    but 2018 ended up being one of the worst flu seasons in decades. hence there were more deaths than expected (aka excess)
    lololIo excess deaths and your interpretation

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    This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.
    Lloololookokokkkkkkllololooll

    Posting how he blocks people.


    Karen alert

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    COVID-19 compared to past flu pandemics:

    After much back and forth in the early months of the Covid-19 pandemic, a consensus is emerging that the overall risk of dying for those infected with the disease — at least so far, in a population with an age distribution roughly similar to that of the U.S. or Europe — is about 6 or 7 in 1,000. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention upwardly revised its “best estimate” of the fatality rate in July to 0.65% from 0.26%. An occasionally updated “meta-analysis” by Australian researchers Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz and Lea Merone of all relevant studies on the disease has it at 0.68%.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-1918-pandemic

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    US Has Now Seen 200,000 More Deaths Than In Previous Years

    More than 200,000 deaths have occurred in the U.S. in 2020 than would have been expected according to trends from previous years,

    The figure encompasses all deaths that have occurred since March 15, including the roughly 162,000 found to have died of COVID-19 since the pandemic began in the United States.

    But the 200,000 count is more than 50,000 deaths higher than the toll of those who died due to identified cases of COVID-19,

    suggesting that far more have passed away either from the illness or from the disruption associated with the pandemic.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckra...estimates-show



    Dead Americans:

    Osama bin Laden: about 3000

    The Trump-Made Pandemic: 70 times more American deaths

    Trash approval: a solid 40%


    Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-10-2020 at 08:55 PM.

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    More Than 200,000

    this is epidemiologists’ and population statisticians’ way of looking at

    the total number of fatalities for all causes across society and

    comparing it to baseline trends in recent years.

    a new report based on CDC-collected data which shows that the US has seen more than 200,000 fatalities normal so far this year.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/more-than-200000?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed
    Doesn't mean what you think it does. You are attributing all excess death to covid. Stop the gossip

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    Doesn't mean what you think it does. You are attributing all excess death to covid. Stop the gossip
    What does it mean?

    Show your numbers or foldren.

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    What does it mean?

    Show your numbers or foldren.
    already have. Use applied stats.

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    already have. Use applied stats.
    fldren folds

    Why are you afraid of me?

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    fldren folds

    Why are you afraid of me?
    Your claim because you cant do math, that means I'm afraid?


    Hmmmmmmn

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    Your claim because you cant do math, that means I'm afraid?


    Hmmmmmmn
    You're afraid to show your math.

    You're afraid to show your numbers.

    You're afraid of me.

    Why are you so afraid?

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    You're afraid to show your math.

    You're afraid to show your numbers.

    You're afraid of me.

    Why are you so afraid?
    so you cant answer questions about your logic?

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    so you cant answer questions about your logic?
    I'm not afraid of your math.

    I'm not afraid of your numbers.

    You are.

    Post your math.

    Post your numbers.

    Or foldren.

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    I'm not afraid of your math.

    I'm not afraid of your numbers.

    You are.

    Post your math.

    Post your numbers.

    Or foldren.
    I asked you a question and you changed the subject then lied.

    Answer the question

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    I asked you a question and you changed the subject then lied.

    Answer the question
    I asked you for your numbers.

    You foldrened.

    Show your numbers.

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    I asked you for your numbers.

    You foldrened.

    Show your numbers.
    lol

    he foldred!

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    Nurses and doctors are not so easily replaced.

    WTF don't we have a national strategy to get health care workers the PPE they need to fight COVID-19?

    As coronavirus cases surge — and dire shortages of lifesaving protective gear like N95 masks, gowns and gloves persist — the nation’s health care workers are again facing life-threatening conditions in Southern and Western states.

    Through crowdsourcing and reports from colleagues, social media, online obituaries, workers unions and local media, Lost on the Frontline reporters have identified 922 health care workers who reportedly died of COVID-19 and its complications.
    https://khn.org/news/exclusive-over-...oll-is-rising/

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    Bad leadership makes public emergencies worse. Treating COVID-19 as if it were a PR problem has turned out to be bad for business too.

    The major economies of the euro area have been rebounding from the recession caused by the Covid-19 pandemic at a faster pace than the U.S.’s, according to indexes developed by Bloomberg’s economists using high-frequency data such as demand for electricity and usage of public transportation. That’s a departure from a decades-long trend in which the economy of the euro area has largely underperformed that of the U.S. The recent divergence has led to euro gains against the dollar. European stocks are also performing better than American equities. Because the U.S. hasn’t been as successful at controlling the coronavirus spread or protecting jobs and incomes, the recovery is showing signs of stalling stateside.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...trading-places

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    "Bad leadership makes public emergencies worse"

    euphemistic

    muggle leadership make historic public health disasters into historic economic catastrophes.



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    Remarkably close to the .0066 from the earliest study.

    Well, now we know.

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    Florida and Georgia were supposed to be “inevitable”, what happened?
    Didn't really talk much about Georgia, to my memory. Welcome to search if you want to get the "w".

    Did predict that Florida would take off tho. TSA denying science and simple math in service to his orange god who would literally feed him to the wolves to save himself.

    One month later <6-25-20>:
    Florida crushes daily coronavirus record by posting over 5,500 new cases in alarming e
    https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavi...npKjqjeJWiUKl4
    Still no bloodbath in Florida.

    216 newly reported Florida coronavirus deaths is second daily record in a row
    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coro...tsu-story.html

    smh

    It takes a special kind of stupid to have your political views interfere with the understanding that "deadly disease will kill people"

    Like the deadly disease will only kill people when it is convenient for your worldview, or magically not spread because of your worldview.

    That is some factless, flawed reasoning, IMO.

    Seriously, TSA what did you think was going to happen when states reopened and people stopped taking basic precautions against a communicable disease?
    [crickets]


    TSA runs the away. Stupid .

    REALITY 8-12:
    Florida and Georgia set new single-day records for coronavirus deaths

    https://www.newsbreak.com/news/16160...related-deaths


    Still no coherent plan from your hero and savior.

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