2020 Dem primaries discussion thread

[Spurs Homer]

I don't think so, Homer. They're just going to have to get in bed with him like it OR not.

not before trying to screw him though

[Will Hunting]

That's what I'm saying. I really don't get the appeal with this guy how he is even close to Sanders.

People (at least white people) are nervous as about replicating 2016 and picking a candidate who loses to Trump so they’re more indecisive and unsure about things than they’ve ever been in a primary. If you look at exit polling most of Buttplug’s voters didn’t decide on him until the last minute and likely did so after the message of him being “electable” had been crammed down their throat leading up to Election Day.

Its why I’m still hopeful Bernie can pull it out - his supporters vote for him because they like him and the other candidates are all trying to run on the platform of “I might be a total piece of but I’m electable.” At some point the candidate who actually inspires more people should win out.

[Trill Clinton]

[DarrinS]

^Lol, Tal X Twitter feed

[Trill Clinton]

^Lol, Tal X Twitter feed

I'm blocked from his twitter.

[Spurs Homer]

People (at least white people) are nervous as about replicating 2016 and picking a candidate who loses to Trump so they’re more indecisive and unsure about things than they’ve ever been in a primary. If you look at exit polling most of Buttplug’s voters didn’t decide on him until the last minute and likely did so after the message of him being “electable” had been crammed down their throat leading up to Election Day.

Its why I’m still hopeful Bernie can pull it out - his supporters vote for him because they like him and the other candidates are all trying to run on the platform of “I might be a total piece of but I’m electable.” At some point the candidate who actually inspires more people should win out.

Bernie will keep on doing interviews like he did last sunday - and I see that Bernie NOW gets it -

he knows how to answer now:

example: Question: "blah-blah SOCIALISM - blah-blah- how do you defend - blah-blah?"
Bernie: "trump took 800 million from the govt for his corrupt businesses - trump gave farmers billions - that is Socialism!"
"only difference is - trumps tax cuts for the rich - is Republicans believe in socialism for the rich!"



question: "blah-blah you once defended Dictator blah - from blah-blah -how do you defend blah blah?"

Bernie: "c'mon - that was in 1974? - did you also find my 3rd grade essay I wrote? - look - Trump cozies up to putin and kim jong un and he defends them and attacks our allies......"

As long as Bernie stays on this track - he will be the nominee as more people "get it" -

the way to beat trump is easy as - IF YOU FOCUS ON HIS CRIMINALITY!

If I ran against trump - and he attacked me - my first response would be:

"i have a question for you mr trump - why did you have unprotected sex with a porn star while melania was pregnant with your child? Did she get tested afterwards? Did you? Did your son?"

next time he attacked me - I would respond by:

"why did you stand next to putin and defend russia? did you accept any money from russia? are you aware of ANY GOP member - that accepted anything of value from russia - either thru the NRA or directly from the kremlin? will you explain to the american people why you chose to believe russia over the usa?"

I would be like a pit bull - over and over and over -

any question directed at me - would be automatically returned in the form of a question to trump:

"what about your health care plan?"

answer: "I would have the bestest, free, health care plan on day 1 and would never even explain how to pay for it - thats how it works isnt it - mr trump?"


Bernie got this - if he can withstand the Democrat/Bloomberg/DNC attacks.

[Thread]

not before trying to screw him though

You're right, Homer,,,Media will know when the time is right to get on his train & they will not miss it,,,till then he's in their cross hairs.

[Spurtacular]

I’ve seen those videos, and yes the mainstream media is always a show. Everybody knows this.

I’m just posting what Bernie’s posting, he’s been making a lot of ominous tweets like this towards the president.

I think he’s going to do it. I think he’ll at least win the popular vote.

His snowflake handlers are whispering for him to say that. He's not a prophet; he's a commie cuck.

[florige]

People (at least white people) are nervous as about replicating 2016 and picking a candidate who loses to Trump so they’re more indecisive and unsure about things than they’ve ever been in a primary. If you look at exit polling most of Buttplug’s voters didn’t decide on him until the last minute and likely did so after the message of him being “electable” had been crammed down their throat leading up to Election Day.

Its why I’m still hopeful Bernie can pull it out - his supporters vote for him because they like him and the other candidates are all trying to run on the platform of “I might be a total piece of but I’m electable.” At some point the candidate who actually inspires more people should win out.

This is Bernie's primary to lose. With his loyal followers and the smart campaign he is running I can't see him losing unless the DNC cheats him over again in which I will officially change my party to independent. If Bernie doesn't get the nomination Trump will win the WH again period.

[hater]

His snowflake handlers are whispering for him to say that. He's not a prophet; he's a commie cuck.

this country already is socialist towards corporations. Bernie wants to change that and make it socialist towards its citizens.

I'm down with that

[spurraider21]

If all of Warrens support really does flip to Sanders when she drops out I think it will be enough but doesn’t matter because I think the support Warren has left (at least among white people) is going to the Stapler Thrower once Warren drops out.

Four years ago everyone thought it was as simple as “Trump has more votes going against him than for him so he’ll lose once they find a mainstream Republican for the other 60% of the primary voters to unify around” and it never happened because it’s a slower and more dynamic process.

Primary voters like high school drop out Tryquesha Jefferson who has the reading ability of a 5th grader don’t see things in terms of “well I’m a moderate so I need to pick the moderate!” Over time the candidate who’s winning the most votes gradually gets more of an advantage because of fundraising and name recognition imo.

Bernies issue is that his coalition of loyalists isn’t as large as Trump’s was (yet). If it got to that point and the primary field was still crowded I think it’d be his to lose.

this is a fair point... its just hard to relate to because most of us here follow politics much more closely than the average voter, so while we are able to more or less place the candidates on a spectrum and figure out who lines up closest to us, typical voter doesnt really go through that analysis

[AaronY]

AaronY rolling in his grave tonight.

Lol Biden sucks apparently and I'm pretty bummed and surprised about it. But luckily I'm not in a cult so I can just admit it. Also, on the plus side it puts a huge amount of daylight between me and boutons which can't be said about most of the progressives on this forum since you guys agree with him on 98% of things at this point

[CosmicCowboy]

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[Reck]

at idiots adding and subtracting votes from candidates

it does not work that way Nancies

How does it work then?

Do you think it is more likely that a Biden supporter goes to Bernie or that they go to Pete's or Amy's?

[AaronY]

How does it work then?

Do you think it is more likely that a Biden supporter goes to Bernie or that they go to Pete's or Amy's?

Peoples second choices are broken down here

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

It's not as ideological as you would think. Political scientists talk about this all the time how people don't just look at policies like you would think but a lot of times their second choice is very different ideologically than their first. If you click on the faces you can see more stats

[Spurtacular]

this country already is socialist towards corporations. Bernie wants to change that and make it socialist towards its citizens.

I'm down with that

It sounds great on paper. And then the government is just one step closer to enslaving people.

[Spurtacular]

Lol Biden sucks apparently and I'm pretty bummed and surprised about it. But luckily I'm not in a cult so I can just admit it. Also, on the plus side it puts a huge amount of daylight between me and boutons which can't be said about most of the progressives on this forum since you guys agree with him on 98% of things at this point

He's no less of a puppet. If you liked him before, you should overlook the gaffes, tbh.

[Winehole23]

It sounds great on paper. And then the government is just one step closer to enslaving people.

There's little need for the government to enslave the people if they're already slaves to employment.

These guys like Steyer and Bloomberg get rich when they snooze, no comparison to ordinary economic striving.

An unexpected $500 expenditure exhausts the life savings of 50% of Norte-Americanos. Investing in the market hasn't been quite the boon to retirees promised before 2008

[Spurtacular]

There's little need for the government to enslave the people if they're already slaves to employment.

These guys like Steyer and Bloomberg get rich when they snooze, no comparison to ordinary economic striving.

An unexpected $500 expenditure exhausts the life savings of 50% of Norte-Americanos. Investing in the market hasn't been quite the boon to retirees promised before 2008

That's bondage. Full-on enslavement is the aim.

[spurraider21]

Peoples second choices are broken down here

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

It's not as ideological as you would think. Political scientists talk about this all the time how people don't just look at policies like you would think but a lot of times their second choice is very different ideologically than their first. If you click on the faces you can see more stats

yeah... i always have to be reminded of this, because it seems counterintuitive, but its also coming from the perspective of somebody who follows politics nearly daily which isn't representative of most voters

but the sanders-warren second choice reciprocity does seem ideological

[spurraider21]

Chair of Iowa Democratic Party resigned

good riddance

even the process of fixing the reporting errors is unnecessarily absurd. the math errors on the worksheets cant even be corrected during a recanvass, only during a recount. and ONLY AFTER a recanvassing are you allowed to get to a recount. oh, and the campaign of whoever requested them has to pay for both

imagine having to pay for 2 steps like that just to fix objective, easy to see math errors

[hater]

How does it work then?

Do you think it is more likely that a Biden supporter goes to Bernie or that they go to Pete's or Amy's?

are you a mind reader niga?

I think some biden supporters will ho to Buttman and some to Bernie

is it that hard to figure it out?

[hater]

It sounds great on paper. And then the government is just one step closer to enslaving people.

we are already enslaved wake up

pay taxes, obey laws, stay in your lane and if you think different you are marginalized and attacked

[hater]

speaking of slavery here is Dumps great america working for the common folk

a third of americans cant even make ends meet every month

but but ma stock market..... dumb assses so gullible

[pgardn]

we are already enslaved wake up

pay taxes, obey laws, stay in your lane and if you think different you are marginalized and attacked

Yeah.
Lets all forget what red lights mean.
Just go, be free...