2020 Dem primaries discussion thread

[Spurminator]

It's the college graduates ( a notorious dem vote that they somewhat lost with hillary) with already good health care in the swing states, that the Dems need to worry about. Bernie is so far, giving them nothing but a tax hike.

Seems to me that young people understand the trade-off and are likely more concerned about the major difference in social issues with Bernie vs. Trump.

[vy65]

Lot of solidarity amongst you Dems

Discussing ideas sure is scary isn’t it?

[Will Hunting]

Off topic but Pete Buttplug being a sore loser, this guy

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/20...results-116844

[Will Hunting]

Discussing ideas sure is scary isn’t it?

I’m surprised his post had 6 words, he usually keeps it to 5 words or less to accommodate his limited mental bandwidth.

[Trainwreck2100]

Lot of solidarity amongst you Dems

I'm no Dem but believe it or not a group of people who agree on some things often disagree on others

[Trainwreck2100]

lol Trainwreck arguing to keep the reserve army of the unemployed unemployed because, labor arbitrage.

Not really

[Will Hunting]

And I'm saying flooding the market with 1.8 million more qualified workers, after subsidizing some of them for five years, is not a good thing. It will at the least depress wages for other people in different industries.

I’m not saying it is a good thing.

im saying that 80 million Americans being uninsured or underinsured and 500,000 Americans declaring bankruptcy every year from medical bills is an exponentially worse thing.

[picnroll]

Off topic but Pete Buttplug being a sore loser, this guy

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/20...results-116844

Bernie cornered the market on sore losers in 2016.

[Winehole23]

Not really

You actually got the math wrong.

Under conditions of full employment wages rise.

[Spurminator]

Discussing ideas sure is scary isn’t it?

In Darrin's world, it's better to just throw your hat in with people who believe school shooting victims are actors and that everyone in power (other than Donald Trump) is a secret transexual pedophile.

Expressing any disagreement with people who ultimately vote your way is weakness.

(Inb4 Darrin compares Qanon and Alex Jones to Russiagate)

[vy65]

I’m surprised his post had 6 words, he usually keeps it to 5 words or less to accommodate his limited mental bandwidth.

Disappointed we didn’t warrant a YouTube

[Trainwreck2100]

I’m not saying it is a good thing.

im saying that 80 million Americans being uninsured or underinsured and 500,000 Americans declaring bankruptcy every year from medical bills is an exponentially worse thing.

Like I said I'm in favor of a Medicare buy in with taxes covering those that can't afford it.

[Will Hunting]

Bernie cornered the market on sore losers in 2016.

87% of Bernie supporters voted for Hillary in 2016
75% of Shillary supporters voted for Obama in 2008

Hillary supporters are much worse losers than Bernie Bros are, the numbers prove it.

[Pelicans78]

in 30 or 40 years, those "burdenened" Medicare for All 20-30 year olds will be 60+ years old.

Works just like social security.

A huge component of Medicare for All is cost reduction, like regulating prices.

Social Security is bankrupt too! Just like our current Medicare.

[Will Hunting]

Like I said I'm in favor of a Medicare buy in with taxes covering those that can't afford it.

That wouldn’t do anything to address cost.

[Winehole23]

87% of Bernie supporters voted for Hillary in 2016
75% of Shillary supporters voted for Obama in 2008

Hillary supporters are much worse losers than Bernie Bros are, the numbers prove it.

Bernie only supported HRC 34 times at campaign events after he withdrew.

[Spurtacular]

87% of Bernie supporters voted for Hillary in 2016
75% of Shillary supporters voted for Obama in 2008

Hillary supporters are much worse losers than Bernie Bros are, the numbers prove it.

I think that stat shows Bernie supporters are just their own special kind of stupid to be supporting that psycho hag at that high of a clip.

[Will Hunting]

Bernie only supported HRC 34 times at campaign events after he withdrew.

Meanwhile Hillary is publicly railing against Bernie because she’s bitter about Democrats wishing they picked him 4 years ago.

[Spurtacular]

Bernie only supported HRC 34 times at campaign events after he withdrew.

Cuck did what he was told.

[Will Hunting]

I think that stat shows Bernie supporters are just their own special kind of stupid to be supporting that psycho hag at that high of a clip.

Fair enough, but, what it also shows is the narrative of Bernie Bros costing Hillary the election is bull .

[Winehole23]

Meanwhile Hillary is publicly railing against Bernie because she’s bitter about Democrats wishing they picked him 4 years ago.

Dems wanting a 2016 do-over seems a reasonable wish considering the aftermath. Running the second most unpopular candidate ever against Trump was a huge mistake. That she was such an inept campaigner only compounded the error.

[Spurtacular]

Meanwhile Hillary is publicly railing against Bernie because she’s bitter about Democrats wishing they picked him 4 years ago.

Hillary supporters will point out that she won by three million votes. Never minding the certain improprieties that occurred, it ignores the principle that a great many people like to vote for the winner. There's a name for that IIRC.

[Winehole23]

Hillary supporters will point out that she won by three million votes. Never minding the certain improprieties that occurred, it ignores the principle that a great many people like to vote for the winner. There's a name for that IIRC.

So far the bandwagon effect favors Sanders. If he wins CA and TX he'll be tough to catch.

[Spurtacular]

Fair enough, but, what it also shows is the narrative of Bernie Bros costing Hillary the election is bull .

If it was 93 percent would she have won?
They say that certain evangelicals staying home cost Mitt the election.

It may be true in either case; but it's laughable that any candidate should expect anyone to vote for him/her. People have their free will.

[Pelicans78]

Obama’s ACA made the private industry much worse by creating massive regulations forcing smaller insurances to go bankrupt, and creating a monopoly among the 4 major corporations in BC/BS, Aetna, Cigna, and Universal which allowed those insurances to raise prices and premium and the overall costs. It also put more pressure on Medicaid/Medicare since people lost their insurances and had to get government insurance which cut coverage on many different treatments and only worsened care for those patients. It can’t even effectively cover those folks. How is it gonna cover everyone? It’s a fantasy.