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    People who were Republicans in the past have been pushed to the Democratic Party because of Trumpism, which is now the definition of Republicanism.
    Not many, because Trump is the exact kind of leader Limbaugh and Hannity and the rest of ClearChannel + Fox have been priming the Republican base into wanting for 20 years. Kudos to Bannon I guess for recognizing it.

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    The concern for the Democratic Party is valid in terms of the possibility that Bloomberg-types can create a socially progressive but still oligarchical juggernaut that forever maintains power simply by being the better option to the Theocrat/conservative but also oligarchical party.

    I think the eventual result of that is a hybrid populist party pulling from less-socially-conservative former Trump supporters and the far left. For me, a two-party system of a socially progressive Wall Street party vs. a socially progressive socialist/populist party is far preferable to the status quo, even if it takes a few more elections to get there.

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    Truth bombs.

    They liked Biden because he was Obama’s VP (even though Obama only picked him as a VP to try and appeal to whites) and ignored Biden’s track record on crime....now they like Bloomberg because of a superficial super bowl ad that had a black woman in it even though Bloomberg supported stop and frisk policing

    To be fair it’s not black millennials, it’s the middle aged and older black voters who go to church every Sunday and listen to their pastor tell them who to vote for after shouting “oh lawdy!!!” for three hours because they can’t think for themselves.
    Vanessa could announce her candidacy tonight and win 100% of the black vote in the California primary.

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    The concern for the Democratic Party is valid in terms of the possibility that Bloomberg-types can create a socially progressive but still oligarchical juggernaut that forever maintains power simply by being the better option to the Theocrat/conservative but also oligarchical party.

    I think the eventual result of that is a hybrid populist party pulling from less-socially-conservative former Trump supporters and the far left. For me, a two-party system of a socially progressive Wall Street party vs. a socially progressive socialist/populist party is far preferable to the status quo, even if it takes a few more elections to get there.
    Me too but it’s naive to think that’s happening as long as 30% of the country votes for whichever candidate talks about outlawing abortion the most,, and I certainly don’t see how the Democratic Party becoming the party of Michael ing Bloomberg gets us there.

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    Vanessa could announce her candidacy tonight and win 100% of the black vote in the California primary.
    If Pete Buttplug changed his last name to Clinton he’d probably be beating Biden in South Carolina right now

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    Me too but it’s naive to think that’s happening as long as 30% of the country votes for whichever candidate talks about outlawing abortion the most,, and I certainly don’t see how the Democratic Party becoming the party of Michael ing Bloomberg gets us there.
    That's the scenario I described though. A Democratic Party that appeals to everyone from Bloomberg to Sanders is too big to survive forever. Abortion won't last forever as a wedge issue either, but I'm sure something else will be dreamt up. Probably some bull about pronouns.

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    Spurminator random love for Bloomberg is odd. The many Ls he's taking here is well deserved. Who would even think about voting for this guy?


    I'd vote for anyone running in the dem side but won't for Bloomberg or Klobuchar.

    Buttigieg I'm 50/50 on but I think he'd lose to Trump badly. Probably Trump's easier oponent because he won't have to do much. HE'S A , MY EVANGELICALS, GO SHOW HIM WHAT WE CAN DO!

    The end.

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    Spurminator random love for Bloomberg is odd. The many Ls he's taking here is well deserved. Who would even think about voting for this guy?

    I'd vote for anyone running in the dem side but won't for Bloomberg or Klobuchar.
    I'm not participating here for imaginary W/L's on an imaginary internet scoreboard scored by people who pick the thread majority's side and say nothing of substance. I respect BB and WH's opinions but I disagree. I haven't said anything to defend Bloomberg against other Democrat candidates, nor would I. I've only "defended" him against the idea that he's worse than Donald Trump. I'll do the same for Klobuchar if you're capable of that level of discussion.
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    Spurminator random love for Bloomberg is odd. The many Ls he's taking here is well deserved. Who would even think about voting for this guy?


    I'd vote for anyone running in the dem side but won't for Bloomberg or Klobuchar.

    Buttigieg I'm 50/50 on but I think he'd lose to Trump badly. Probably Trump's easier oponent because he won't have to do much. HE'S A , MY EVANGELICALS, GO SHOW HIM WHAT WE CAN DO!

    The end.
    Why Klobuchar? I think she’d be an awful candidate and is another moderate corporatist, but I’d definitely vote for her over Trump.

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    Why Klobuchar? I think she’d be an awful candidate and is another moderate corporatist, but I’d definitely vote for her over Trump.
    Your random love for Klobuchar is odd.


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    Why Klobuchar? I think she’d be an awful candidate and is another moderate corporatist, but I’d definitely vote for her over Trump.
    Because she's terrible on a scale even beyond that of Hillary. Mostly annoyed by her talking points she doesn't even bother to tweak.

    She can be summarized in one sentence.

    I have won everywhere I ran so that's why I'll beat Trump!

    The difference between Klobuchar and Pete is that Pete has a limited enthusiasm to him. At least with whites and younger people.

    But he's got problems of his own though.

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    Black voters are the least informed and most shallow in the entire electorate, they vote on name recognition. , they backed Hilary over Obama even after several primaries were completed solely because of her last name and they were too stupid to figure out Obama was black.
    what color did they think "Barak Obama" was?

    Middle eastern maybe cuz it sounds like Osama?

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    Because she's terrible on a scale even beyond that of Hillary. Mostly annoyed by her talking points she doesn't even bother to tweak.

    She can be summarized in one sentence.

    I have won everywhere I ran so that's why I'll beat Trump!
    This isn't a defense of voting for Trump over Klobuchar, this is you saying Klobuchar annoys you. Why do you prefer Donald Trump to Klobuchar?

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    This isn't a defense of voting for Trump over Klobuchar, this is you saying Klobuchar annoys you. Why do you prefer Donald Trump to Klobuchar?
    When ever did I say I'd vote for Trump instead? Maybe you did have too much caffeine.

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    When ever did I say I'd vote for Trump instead? Maybe you did have too much caffeine.
    I'd vote for anyone running in the dem side but won't for Bloomberg or Klobuchar.
    Did I misunderstand this sentence? If I did, then that means you agree with me about Bloomberg. Which is it?

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    Did I misunderstand this sentence? If I did, then that means you agree with me about Bloomberg. Which is it?
    Obviously you did because nowhere in those posts or anywhere in this entire board will you find where I said I'd vote for Trump over x.

    Keyword, in dem side.

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    Obviously you did because nowhere in those posts or anywhere in this entire board will you find where I said I'd vote for Trump over x.

    Keyword, in dem side.
    So you posted an entire hype man rant about how I'd be stupid to vote for Bloomberg when you have the same exact position.

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    So you posted an entire hype man rant about how I'd be stupid to vote for Bloomberg when you basically feel exactly the same way.
    Or you know...I would just stay home and not vote for either if they become the nominee. Which I would do. I wouldn't vote for Bloomberg under any circustances.

    Maybe you'll get my point accros now Bloombergnator.

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    Or you know...I would just stay home and not vote for either if they become the nominee. Which I would do. I wouldn't vote for Bloomberg under any circustances.

    Maybe you'll get my point accros now Bloombergnator.
    "I'd vote for anyone running in the dem side but won't for Bloomberg or Klobuchar" is a really weird way to say "I'll stay home if Bloomberg or Klobuchar is the nominee" so you can understand my trouble deciphering it. But fair enough. I'll ask it this way: Why are you equally okay with a Trump re-election vs. a Bloomberg or Klobuchar Presidency?

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    Because she's terrible on a scale even beyond that of Hillary. Mostly annoyed by her talking points she doesn't even bother to tweak.

    She can be summarized in one sentence.

    I have won everywhere I ran so that's why I'll beat Trump!

    The difference between Klobuchar and Pete is that Pete has a limited enthusiasm to him. At least with whites and younger people.

    But he's got problems of his own though.
    I think she’s equally as unelectable as a woman with a y personality but at least to me she doesn’t seem like a completely soulless politician the way Hillary did.

    Not trying to defend her I just don’t think she’s on the same level as Bloomberg in terms of Democrats abandoning their ideals.

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    "I'd vote for anyone running in the dem side but won't for Bloomberg or Klobuchar" is a really weird way to say "I'll stay home if Bloomberg or Klobuchar is the nominee" so you can understand my trouble deciphering it. But fair enough. I'll ask it this way: Why are you equally okay with a Trump re-election vs. a Bloomberg or Klobuchar Presidency?
    I'm just 1 vote so How do you figure a Trump re-election? It's a personal choice and people might feel different about them. But most seem to be in agreement that he's just out there buying votes for the sake of buying votes.

    I find Bloomberg abhorrent.

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    I think she’s equally as unelectable as a woman with a y personality but at least to me she doesn’t seem like a completely soulless politician the way Hillary did.

    Not trying to defend her I just don’t think she’s on the same level as Bloomberg in terms of Democrats abandoning their ideals.
    I do agree on the last part. Like I said, my dislike for Amy is more to do with annoyance rather than pure hatred (I know its a strong word) for bloomberg.

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    I'm just 1 vote so How do you figure a Trump re-election? It's a personal choice and people might feel different about them. But most seem to be in agreement that he's just out there buying votes for the sake of buying votes.

    I find Bloomberg abhorrent.
    It's always just one vote. Why vote ever?

    But you're right, it's your choice. Just like it's my choice to vote for a jar of feces if it's the Democratic candidate against Donald Trump.

    Glad we could find common ground.

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    God, stopping Russian troll efforts more important than stopping an oligarch hijacking the party? off Nancy.

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