Tim tbh. Bernie or bust.
I can't imagine how much the modern DNC would clutch their pearls over FDR running in 2020. OMG this dangerous lefty wants to guarantee employment and a living wage.
I miss spencer hawes tbqh
You are kidding right? Bernie has probably a big of a loyal following as Trump. He is the only candidate who can beat Trump. Remember in 2016 there was "Zero" chance Trump would win in a general election too.
chris matthews would rant on about how FDR is the next che guevara (who will have matthews executed in central park).
Ah yes, the bro’s for Trump.
I’d far prefer Warren to Sanders. I think Sanders is a little weasel who knows his accomplishments would end up about where Buttigieg is but knows the bro ideologues want to hear and buy the progressive dream so that’s what he promises. , even AOC is turning honest about expectations. That said to get rid of Trump I’d swallow my vomit and vote for Sanders if that’s what it called for.
And I also love how people attack “Bernie Bros”. On one hand they rally against Russian interference and bots regarding Trump but then all of the sudden it’s on Bernie to stop all the online bullying and harassment?
Like his real supporters are out there beating everyone up and threatening people. It’s really funny.
Yeah, Bernie is very much selling something based on the current climate vs you know, actually having the same opinion on this stuff for like 50 years regardless of political environment .
Sure, just selling what people today want to hear though despite telling people for 50 years this stuff since opinions of the people have never changed in that time.
Some guy was mean to me on the internet so I don't think poor people deserve access to healthcare.
I think Tim lost a bet.
I preferred Warren too because she is one of the best senators we have had in a long time, but she shot herself in the face with her iden y politics crap crying that Sanders told her a woman couldn't win. Warren's campaign is sadly dead now and she has no one to blame but herself. I don't understand this idea that the Democrats need to roll with what lost them 2016 and somehow results will be different, like Trump wasn't a piece of all through 2015 and 2016 too. I don't believe there are many swing voters in 2020 just like there weren't in 2016, and targeting them makes little sense at the expense of killing your base's enthusiasm. 2016 was a pretty clear rejection of the Clinton Democratic party in what should have been an easy election to win. I fear 2020 will be the same with the party pushing itself farther right. My jaw was still on the floor watching Pelosi and Schumer claim that Russia was the important problem to fixate on, not a billionaire trying to buy his way into the nomination.
It never made sense to me. My personal politics aside, Bernie appeals to more voters than the other choices in the party, and has the strongest base. You're not going to beat a populist like Trump by playing it safe with an establishment candidate like Klobuchar/Booty, or by going Diet-Republican with Bloomberg.
Especially when something like twice the rate of butthurt Clinton backers voted McCain over Obama vs the Sanders supporters who voted Trump over Clinton.
I agree 1000% with that. It was a horribly run campaign and seems like the Dems haven't learned from her loss bc that's been their talking point for 4 years now. It didn't work then and it won't work now. I'd vote for Bernie (not bc I'm anti-Trump) but bc he would piss off the most people. Seriously both sides have been mailing it in and squabbling for years and years that it's getting old. For all the party , people forget that we're still all Americans and by and large, Congress hasn't worked together since 9/11. Bernie has no real supporters (neither did Trump) and he is running as anti-establishment (much like Trump did) but maybe this will open their eyes that we are tired of the bull candidates on both sides.
I prefer someone who campaigns based on what he knows can realistically be delivered and choices made on what’s realistic. But hey if you want to vote for the guy who promises you a pony go for it.
he should shut up and dribble tbh
Like Clinton and her no fly zone in Syria in 2016?
You should ask yourself “why” these things cant be delivered then. By your logic, you agree with what Bernie is saying but know he will get screwed trying to give it to the people.
It’s not like Bernie is promising things he does not believe in. It’s that there is a system in place on both DEM/REP to keep the rich rich and everyone else not.
Nonsense.
Hillary didn’t run an “I’m not Trump” campaign. She was the favorite throughout and at that time no one really knew how ty Trump is and/or didn’t take him seriously.
Hillary ran a “We got next” campaign of inevitability and Sanders’ quixotic campaign was a real distraction to that message. (Also this time around also you’ll see Sanders slip as candidates drop out and their supporters go to other candidates. He like Trump has a zealous but relatively small group of supporters, a hard ceiling and floor.)
Trump meanwhile ran and still runs a I’m Trump (white power) Amerikkka first campaign
also hillary is unlikeable
I don't know how much clearer a sign people need that corporate Democrats are cancer to American voters than losing to Donald Trump.
perhaps uniquely unlikeable except for ted cruz
Timmy is a multi gazillionaire -
so voting for a Republican makes sense for him.
Those who vote for trump-if they are white supremacists and gazillionaires -
I cant hate them for voting for trump if that is who they are -
anyone not rich or a nazi -
are plain ing stupid complicit idiots - if they vote for the nazi in chief.
In 2016 Bernie didn’t even know what foreign policy was. Now his policy is “let’s all get together and have a little kumbaya moment”.
That's what I said. If you put the usual day by day politician up against Trump he wins again. Its going to take someone out of the box who can beat Trump. Bernie is a gift from the heavens for the Dem's hopefully they aren't stupid enough again to screw this up.
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