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    Veteran vy65's Avatar
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    Just started playing around with the tax calculator on his website:

    https://www.bernietax.com/#0;0;s

    I'm no billionaire. I'm not even close to being a millionaire. But goddamn. this dude.

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    Compared to Warren, who's plan only affects those at 50MM and higher.

    https://elizabethwarren.com/plans/ultra-millionaire-tax

    Yah, I get that Bernie isn't a "communist." But, he's also a communist.

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    Just started playing around with the tax calculator on his website:

    https://www.bernietax.com/#0;0;s

    I'm no billionaire. I'm not even close to being a millionaire. But goddamn. this dude.
    BERNIETAX.COM IS NOT AN OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN SITE AND WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH BERNIE SANDERS' OR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATED ORGANIZATIONS. WE DO NOT MAKE ANY CLAIMS ABOUT THE COMPLETENESS, RELIABILITY AND ACCURACY OF THIS INFORMATION. ANY ACTION YOU TAKE UPON THE INFORMATION ON THIS WEBSITE IS STRICTLY AT YOUR OWN RISK, AND WE WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY LOSSES AND DAMAGES IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OF THIS INFORMATION.

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    Compared to Warren, who's plan only affects those at 50MM and higher.

    https://elizabethwarren.com/plans/ultra-millionaire-tax

    Yah, I get that Bernie isn't a "communist." But, he's also a communist.
    warren's isnt the full picture, that's just the wealth tax, which she says is aimed to pay for child care/college tuitions/student loans

    she has additional taxes for things like medicare, etc

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    BERNIETAX.COM IS NOT AN OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN SITE AND WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH BERNIE SANDERS' OR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATED ORGANIZATIONS. WE DO NOT MAKE ANY CLAIMS ABOUT THE COMPLETENESS, RELIABILITY AND ACCURACY OF THIS INFORMATION. ANY ACTION YOU TAKE UPON THE INFORMATION ON THIS WEBSITE IS STRICTLY AT YOUR OWN RISK, AND WE WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY LOSSES AND DAMAGES IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OF THIS INFORMATION.
    So why isn’t Bernie saying the bernietax.com calculator is inaccurate?

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    Shouldn't come as a surprise, Bernie's been upfront about middle class going up.

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    So why isn’t Bernie saying the bernietax.com calculator is inaccurate?
    Does he know that website exists?

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    I guess it's a question of whether your tax increase is more than what you save on health insurance.

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    Does he know that website exists?
    Yes

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    I guess it's a question of whether your tax increase is more than what you save on health insurance.
    Fair. For a healthy 30 something year old, they don’t. By a large amount. Obviously could be different for others, but this is just my thoughts from my vantage point.

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    Really I haven't seen anything that says that

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    Really I haven't seen anything that says that
    Is bernietax.com inaccurate? If accurate, why does it matter if Bernie knows it exists or not?

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    Bernie is going to tax that website until it's only a thumbnail.

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    Bernie is going to tax that website until it's only a thumbnail.
    as long as he redistributes to wealth the spurstalk

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    maybe he should just tax all income at 90% flat and 99% of income over a million tbh

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    Y'all hoo HATE paying ANY taxes will be suckered/compromised yet again by Trash cutting taxes as a campaign 2020 tactic

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    Would cost me an additional $10,000 a year over what I pay now.

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    Would cost me an additional $10,000 a year over what I pay now.
    congrats tbh, you are doing quite well for yourself to reach those numbers.

    would you be able to keep your home if this came into effect tbh?

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    Bernie is a total fraud s bag millionaire who doesn't live the lies he preaches to his gullible re supporters.

    ing die already bernie!

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    congrats tbh, you are doing quite well for yourself to reach those numbers.

    would you be able to keep your home if this came into effect tbh?
    would ruin his quality of life because he would no longer be able to take his kids to the arcade and theme park every week tbh

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    I guess it's a question of whether your tax increase is more than what you save on health insurance.
    That is the part that most conservative hand-wavers tend to gloss over.

    We spend twice as much on health care per capita, mostly because of the massive administrative overhead required at all levels of the health care and insurance system to handle claims and get paid.

    There is a reason that the universal health insurance in other countries is cheaper. Over time the premiums and taxes would fall to rough parity with other OECD countries.

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    That is the part that most conservative hand-wavers tend to gloss over.

    We spend twice as much on health care per capita, mostly because of the massive administrative overhead required at all levels of the health care and insurance system to handle claims and get paid.

    There is a reason that the universal health insurance in other countries is cheaper. Over time the premiums and taxes would fall to rough parity with other OECD countries.
    Fair. But what about the healthy 20 or 30 something who doesn't pay that much in healthcare costs and has to pony up thousands more under Bernie's plan. What's the appeal to them?

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    This doesn't take into account deductions bruh. It's a hit job

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    And its the same as before, because health insurance. Plus, none of this is taking into account that SALT deduction limit is killing the middle class anyway. That would likely be reversed if any dem was president, because it was just a tax that targeted blue states. Removing that alone makes this easily at least a wash for me, personally.

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    Fair. But what about the healthy 20 or 30 something who doesn't pay that much in healthcare costs and has to pony up thousands more under Bernie's plan. What's the appeal to them?
    The appeal to them is that over their lifetime they’ll still pay collectively less for healthcare than they’d be paying with private insurance / a broken medicare system with out of control costs.

    Not to mention the part Sanders should advertise a lot more that the 20s and 30s crowd could would be able to start a small business without paying for their employees’ healthcare.

    The real truth though is that someone like you, a healthy guy in his 30s who makes good money, is always going to be subsidizing other people one way or the other. Right now your tax dollars are subsidizing the defense industry with spending we don’t need.

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