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    The economic storm hasn't passed; the false calm is only the eye of the financial hurricane.
    To understand the economic cataclysm ahead, do the math. Those expecting the Covid-19 pandemic to leave the U.S. economy untouched are implicitly making these preposterously unlikely claims:
    1. China will resume full pre-pandemic production and shipping within the next two weeks.
    2. Chinese consumers will resume borrowing and spending at pre-pandemic rates in a few weeks.
    3. Every factory and every worker in China will resume full pre-pandemic production without any permanent closures or disruptions.
    4. Corporate America's just-in-time inventories will magically expand to cover weeks or months of supply chain disruption.
    5. Not a single one of the thousands of people who flew direct from Wuhan to the U.S. in January is an asymptomatic carrier of the coronavirus who escaped detection at the airport.
    6. Not a single one of the thousands of people who flew from China to the U.S. in February is an asymptomatic carrier of the coronavirus.
    7. Not a single one of the thousands of people who are in self-quarantine broke the quarantine to go to Safeway for milk and eggs.
    8. Not a single person who came down with Covid-19 after arriving in the U.S. feared being deported so they did not go to a hospital and are therefore unknown to authorities.
    9. Even though U.S. officials have only tested a relative handful of the thousands of people who came from Covid-19 hotspots in China, they caught every single asymptomatic carrier.
    10. Not a single asymptomatic carrier caught a flight from China to Southeast Asia and then promptly boarded a flight for the U.S.
    I could go on but you get the picture: an extremely contagious pathogen that is spread by carriers who don't know they have the virus to people who then infect others in a rapidly expanding circle has been completely controlled by U.S. authorities who haven't tested or even tracked tens of thousands of potential carriers in the U.S.
    These same authorities are quick to claim the risk of Covid-19 spreading in the U.S. is low even as the 14 infected people they put on a plane ended up infecting 25 passengers on the flight. These same authorities tried to transfer quarantined people to a rundown facility in Costa Mesa CA that was not suitable for quarantine, forcing the city to file a lawsuit to stop the transfer.
    Do these actions instill unwavering confidence in the official U.S. response? You must be joking.
    Do the math, people. The coronavirus is already in the U.S. but authorities have no way to track it due to its spread by asymptomatic carriers. People who don't even know they have the virus are flying to intermediate airports outside China and then catching flights to the U.S.
    None of the known characteristics of the virus support the confidence being projected by authorities. The tests are not reliable, few are being tested, carriers can't be detected because they don't have any symptoms, the virus is highly contagious, thousands of potential carriers continue to arrive in the U.S., etc. etc. etc.
    The network of global travel remains intact. Removing a few nodes (Wuhan, etc.) does not reduce the entire network's connectedness that enables the rapid and invisible spread of the virus.
    Second, what authorities call over-reaction is simply prudent risk management. As I noted yesterday in How Many Cases of Covid-19 Will It Take For You to Decide Not to Frequent Public Places?, when an abstract pandemic becomes real, shelves are emptied and streets are deserted.
    It doesn't take thousands of cases to trigger a dramatic reduction in the willingness to mix with crowds of strangers. A relative handful of cases is enough to be consequential.
    Many of the new jobs created in the U.S. economy over the past decade are in the food and beverage services sector, the sector that is immediately impacted when people decide to lower their risk by staying home rather than going out to crowded restaurants, theaters, bars, etc.
    Many of these establishments are hanging on by a thread due to soaring rents, taxes, fees, healthcare and wages. Many of the employees are also hanging on by a thread, only making rent if they collect big tips.
    Central banks can borrow money into existence but they can't replace lost income. A significant percentage of America's food and beverage establishments are financially precarious, and their exhausted owners are burned out by the stresses of keeping their business afloat as costs continue rising. The initial financial hit as people reduce their public exposure will be more than enough to cause many to close their doors forever.
    As small businesses fold, local tax revenues crater, triggering fiscal crises in local government budgets dependent on ever-higher tax and fee revenues.
    A significant percentage of America's borrowers are financially precarious, one paycheck or unexpected expense away from defaulting on student loans, subprime auto loans, credit card payments, etc.
    A significant percentage of America's corporations are financially precarious, dependent on expanding debt and rising cash flow to service their expanding debt load. Any hit to their revenues will trigger defaults that will then unleash second-order effects in the global financial system.
    The global economy is so dependent on speculative euphoria, leverage and debt that any external shock will tip it over the cliff. The U.S. economy is far more precarious than advertised as well.
    The economic storm hasn't passed; the false calm is only the eye of the financial hurricane.

    https://charleshughsmith.blogspot.co...ysm-ahead.html

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    I think the markets are pricing in a lot of the numbered bullets here. Just-in-time factories are going to grind to a halt, and some are already doing so.
    94% of the Fortune 1000 are seeing coronavirus supply chain disruptions: Report
    https://fortune.com/2020/02/21/fortu...-chain-impact/

    My gut says the virus is exploding in Iran, and that will become the epicenter.

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    RandomCuck posting more spam.

    Buttons says o, bruh.

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    Keep saying it, little monkey. Dance.

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    End times

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    RandomCuck: You have a comfort mechanism just like your cuck brother blake.

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    How many Chinese tourists will visit the U.S. this year?

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    RG really went down a rabbit hole to find this gem


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    I'm taking my financial cues from that guy


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    RG really went down a rabbit hole to find this gem

    Eyup. Obscure blog it is.

    I notice your lazy/dumb ass can't argue any of the points he is making.

    What does that say about you, Cosmored?

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    RG really went down a rabbit hole to find this gem

    One of his fellow betas.

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    These doomsday write ups are ridiculous

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    RG when is the last time you bathed?

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    RG when is the last time you bathed?
    Does drawing baths for his wife's lovers count?

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    The economic storm hasn't passed; the false calm is only the eye of the financial hurricane..
    Man I wish I was in a cat 2 financial hurricane. I'd be grabbing that money money money





    that money money money








    but not cat 5 I'd probably be impaled by a gold bulion

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    RG trying to front like he's some Wall St oracle.

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    The economic effects are driven by the attempts to stop the virus. Once the world admits it can't be stopped trade/travel will resume as normal. CDC has already quietly acknowledged they aren't stopping this. Before long it will be classified as a pandemic which means the effort to stop it will cease, just as they did with swine flu.

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    It will spread quicker in the United States if they don't come up with a vaccination. The US won't close businesses (they don't want to waste money closing).

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    The virus gives donald an excuse for not hitting his projected gdp growth targets promised as a result of his tax cut. Targets we weren’t even close to hitting without the virus.

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    The economic effects are driven by the attempts to stop the virus. Once the world admits it can't be stopped trade/travel will resume as normal. CDC has already quietly acknowledged they aren't stopping this. Before long it will be classified as a pandemic which means the effort to stop it will cease, just as they did with swine flu.
    im going with this

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    Does drawing baths for his wife's lovers count?
    you have a really consistent problem

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    My gut says the virus is exploding in Iran, and that will become the epicenter.
    Nigeria reporting its first covid-19 case.

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    you have a really consistent problem

    It's definitely up there with that weirdo Fabbs and his pedophilia and insane desire to buy lap dances for complete strangers.

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    [doesn't provide a take on the topic, goes for personal attack]
    Jesus dude, get a new schtick.

    I think the OP made some decent points. That's it. I guess you mostly agree with them, because you chose to ignore them for your favorite sport, i.e. beating up on the RG strawman you have created in your head. I guess if it makes you happy in some way. whatever.

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    The economic effects are driven by the attempts to stop the virus. Once the world admits it can't be stopped trade/travel will resume as normal. CDC has already quietly acknowledged they aren't stopping this. Before long it will be classified as a pandemic which means the effort to stop it will cease, just as they did with swine flu.
    Public sentiment will drive efforts to contain it for months to come. No politician is going to want to seem reckless in the face of this. The authoritarians in Iran don't even want to do so.

    I think you are roughly right about this though I would add that "normal" seems like a ways down the road to me.

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