Texas response to Corona virus

[ChumpDumper]

What should we (Texans) compare our situation to?

Texas.

[midnightpulp]

What should we (Texans) compare our situation to?

That's the wrong way to look at it. By hook or by crook, Texas was probably doing the best in US from the start to around early June. With proper solutions in place, Texas could've kept the spread in check and had a relatively open economy. But Abbott and Co. went 0-60 with reopening. Newsom did the same thing here, but he shutdown bars, indoor dining, hair salons, etc again. Abbott won't commit to anything because he seems to live in fantasy land.

[ChumpDumper]

It probably matters to people trying to track the outbreak. Do people with European ancestry have more immunity to covid-19?

I chalk it mainly up to lebensraum and work/lifestyle options.

[midnightpulp]

It probably matters to people trying to track the outbreak. Do people with European ancestry have more immunity to covid-19?

No. Because Latinos typically live in multigen households and/or in crowded households and make up a decent percentage of essential workers, while whites have jobs that can be done from home.

[tholdren]

"At least we're not New York" isn't a good perspective. Remember when we considered Italy Armageddon? NY and NJ had nearly 3x the death rate as Italy. You're not so much as putting things into perspective as you are desensitized because NY and NJ had the worst outbreak in the entire world.

Only because the gov sent infected people to congregate living..then blamed on others

[DarrinS]

No. Because Latinos typically live in multigen households and/or in crowded households and make up a decent percentage of essential workers, while whites have jobs that can be done from home.

You bring up a good point, but I'm sure there are a decent percentage of whites in the medical field.

I'm specifically thinking of health problems and vit-D deficiency in minority communities.

[Winehole23]

Nueces County related

https://www.kiiitv.com/article/news/...4-8c9ec20ee3a3

[DarrinS]

Nueces County related

https://www.kiiitv.com/article/news/...4-8c9ec20ee3a3

Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity.

[ChumpDumper]

Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity.

"probably"

[Blake]

You love the idea of no immunity. Such a pessimist.

Stupid.

[Blake]

I was told we needed to flatten the curve. Did we do that?

If the goal was to make case counts to go zero until a vaccine was available, then we failed miserably.

Again, I say compare the curve for TX to NY on covid.heatlthdata.org for some perspective.

I don't think Abbott will be making artwork of Texas' "death mountain", like Cuomo has.

Again whataboutnewyork

[DarrinS]

"probably"

That's the term you use when you don't know "exactly" .

[Winehole23]

Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity.

Ok, Dr. Darrin

[ChumpDumper]

when you don't know

[baseline bum]

Texas was sheltering in place pretty well. Scroll down.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...-america/texas

About 40-50 percent reduced mobility from late March til Late April, which made May's growth curve look good. And throughout the first half of May, still around 30 percent reduced. But then we see it creeping up and reaching 20 percent reduced by the first week of June. When you factor in complacency due to social distancing fatigue (when this first started, people were avoiding each other like it was the plague. Not so anymore) + hotter weather driving people indoors + exponential growth = the current situation.

The Balous Miller Strike Force got restaurant dining rooms opened up on May 1st at 25% capacity, but there was no enforcement so the capacity was really just a suggestion and it was 100% capacity for any restaurant in the state that wanted to do so. It was funny too because the right wing posters here were claiming victory because we weren't New York two weeks later. I think it's just a case of exponential growth being really slow at first from a small seed. Same thing when everyone upstairs was saying it's only 50 deaths right before New York, New Orleans, and Detroit blew up. But the huge jumpstart seemed to be bars in late May. They were opened immediately at 100% capacity. Technically only 50% capacity, but that was really just voluntary and when Austin tried to shut down two bars over capacity and those bars sued the city, the state of Texas told Austin to go their mothers some more. So no enforcement = 100% capacity.

[Trainwreck2100]

The Balous Miller Strike Force got restaurant dining rooms opened up on May 1st at 25% capacity, but there was no enforcement so the capacity was really just a suggestion and it was 100% capacity for any restaurant in the state that wanted to do so. It was funny too because the right wing posters here were claiming victory because we weren't New York two weeks later. I think it's just a case of exponential growth being really slow at first from a small seed. Same thing when everyone upstairs was saying it's only 50 deaths right before New York, New Orleans, and Detroit blew up. But the huge jumpstart seemed to be bars in late May. They were opened immediately at 100% capacity. Technically only 50% capacity, but that was really just voluntary and when Austin tried to shut down two bars over capacity and those bars sued the city, the state of Texas told Austin to go their mothers some more. So no enforcement = 100% capacity.

I don't really think it was the restaurants, it was the bars, and the memorial day celebrations that came after.

[Blake]

Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity.

Brazos County related

.......Dr. Kia Parsi, the Chief Medical Officer for CHI St. Joseph Regional Health.

Parsi said officials hope to have herd immunity for coronavirus in the future. But he says there’s still more about the virus we need to figure out before that happens.

”It’s either enough of the population has been infected or enough of the population has been immunized to prevent infection. The truth is we don’t know for sure if being previously infected with COVID-19 develops enough of an immunity to create this herd immunity effect,” said Parsi......

https://www.kbtx.com/2020/07/08/braz...-for-covid-19/

The truth doesn't care about your "optimism"

[Blake]

Good. They double that, and they're probably near herd immunity.

Brazos County related

.......Dr. Kia Parsi, the Chief Medical Officer for CHI St. Joseph Regional Health.

Parsi said officials hope to have herd immunity for coronavirus in the future. But he says there’s still more about the virus we need to figure out before that happens.

”It’s either enough of the population has been infected or enough of the population has been immunized to prevent infection. The truth is we don’t know for sure if being previously infected with COVID-19 develops enough of an immunity to create this herd immunity effect,” said Parsi......

https://www.kbtx.com/2020/07/08/braz...-for-covid-19/

The truth doesn't care about your "optimism"

[Blake]

The Balous Miller Strike Force got restaurant dining rooms opened up on May 1st at 25% capacity, but there was no enforcement so the capacity was really just a suggestion and it was 100% capacity for any restaurant in the state that wanted to do so. It was funny too because the right wing posters here were claiming victory because we weren't New York two weeks later. I think it's just a case of exponential growth being really slow at first from a small seed. Same thing when everyone upstairs was saying it's only 50 deaths right before New York, New Orleans, and Detroit blew up. But the huge jumpstart seemed to be bars in late May. They were opened immediately at 100% capacity. Technically only 50% capacity, but that was really just voluntary and when Austin tried to shut down two bars over capacity and those bars sued the city, the state of Texas told Austin to go their mothers some more. So no enforcement = 100% capacity.

even today they're screeching "at least we're not gonna reach New York numbers"

[RandomGuy]

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) presents arguably the greatest public health crisis in living memory. One surprising aspect of this pandemic is that children appear to be infected by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes COVID-19, far less frequently than adults and, when infected, typically have mild symptoms,1–3 although emerging reports of a novel Kawasaki disease–like multisystem inflammatory syndrome necessitate continued surveillance in pediatric patients.4,5 However, a major question remains unanswered: to what extent are children responsible for SARS-CoV-2 transmission? Resolving this issue is central to making informed public health decisions, ranging from how to safely re-open schools, child care facilities, and summer camps down to the precautions needed to obtain a throat culture in an uncooperative child. To date, few published data are available to help guide these decisions.

In this issue of Pediatrics, Posfay-Barbe et al6 report on the dynamics of COVID-19 within families of children with reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction–confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in Geneva, Switzerland. From March 10 to April 10, 2020, all children <16 years of age diagnosed at Geneva University Hospital (N = 40) underwent contact tracing to identify infected household contacts (HHCs). Of 39 evaluable households, in only 3 (8%) was a child the suspected index case, with symptom onset preceding illness in adult HHCs. In all other households, the child developed symptoms after or concurrent with adult HHCs, suggesting that the child was not the source of infection and that children most frequently acquire COVID-19 from adults, rather than transmitting it to them.

These findings are consistent with other recently published HHC investigations in China. Of 68 children with confirmed COVID-19 admitted to Qingdao Women’s and Children’s Hospital from January 20 to February 27, 2020, and with complete epidemiological data, 65 (95.59%) patients were HHCs of previously infected adults.7 Of 10 children hospitalized outside Wuhan, China, in only 1 was there possible child to adult transmission, based on symptom chronology.8 Similarly, transmission of SARS-CoV-2 by children outside household settings seems uncommon, although information is limited. In an intriguing study from France, a 9-year-old boy with respiratory symptoms associated with picornavirus, influenza A, and SARS-CoV-2 coinfection was found to have exposed over 80 classmates at 3 schools; no secondary contacts became infected, despite numerous influenza infections within the schools, suggesting an environment conducive to respiratory virus transmission.9 In New South Wales, Australia, 9 students and 9 staff infected with SARS-CoV-2 across 15 schools had close contact with a total of 735 students and 128 staff.10 Only 2 secondary infections were identified, none in adult staff; 1 student in primary school was potentially infected by a staff member, and 1 student in high school was potentially infected via exposure to 2 infected schoolmates.

On the basis of these data, SARS-CoV-2 transmission in schools may be less important in community transmission than initially feared. This would be another manner by which SARS-CoV-2 differs drastically from influenza, for which school-based transmission is well recognized as a significant driver of epidemic disease and forms the basis for most evidence regarding school closures as public health strategy.11,12 Although 2 reports are far from definitive, the researchers provide early reassurance that school-based transmission could be a manageable problem, and school closures may not have to be a foregone conclusion, particularly for elementary school–aged children who appear to be at the lowest risk of infection. Additional support comes from mathematical models, which find that school closures alone may be insufficient to halt epidemic spread13 and have modest overall impacts compared with broader, community-wide physical distancing measures.14

These data all suggest that children are not significant drivers of the COVID-19 pandemic. It is unclear why do ented SARS-CoV-2 transmission from children to other children or adults is so infrequent. In 47 COVID-19–infected German children, nasopharyngeal SARS-CoV-2 viral loads were similar to those in other age groups, raising concern that children could be as infectious as adults.15 Because SARS-CoV-2 infected children are so frequently mildly symptomatic, they may have weaker and less frequent cough, releasing fewer infectious particles into the surrounding environment. Another possibility is that because school closures occurred in most locations along with or before widespread physical distancing orders, most close contacts became limited to households, reducing opportunities for children to become infected in the community and present as index cases.

Almost 6 months into the pandemic, ac ulating evidence and collective experience argue that children, particularly school-aged children, are far less important drivers of SARS-CoV-2 transmission than adults. Therefore, serious consideration should be paid toward strategies that allow schools to remain open, even during periods of COVID-19 spread. In doing so, we could minimize the potentially profound adverse social, developmental, and health costs that our children will continue to suffer until an effective treatment or vaccine can be developed and distributed or, failing that, until we reach herd immunity.16,17

https://pediatrics.aappublications.o...ds.2020-004879

tldr.

I assume it says that children don't transmit much, and fails to talk about adolescents, like all your other materials, you disingenuous .

You have failed to meet your burden of proof.

Remember, bootlick, the white house says science shouldn't stand the way, so I don't see why you working so hard. You have your marching orders. Ignore the science.

[Blake]

tldr.

I assume it says that children don't transmit much, and fails to talk about adolescents, like all your other materials.

You have failed to meet your burden of proof.

BUT HE'S POSTED SO MUCH TEXT

[RandomGuy]

BUT HE'S POSTED SO MUCH TEXT

But look at all the links!!!!

man. He does like that all the time. He tried it once to show how much of a stand Trump was taking against Putin, and I got about five links down in a bunch of weak sauces and stopped.

This is no different.

He is desperate to spin for this master. It is kinda creepy. Ima call him Reek from now on.

[Blake]

But look at all the links!!!!

man. He does like that all the time. He tried it once to show how much of a stand Trump was taking against Putin, and I got about five links down in a bunch of weak sauces and stopped.

This is no different.

He is desperate to spin for this master. It is kinda creepy. Ima call him Reek from now on.

PROVE ALL THOSE LINKS WRONG!

[Blake]

"AUSTIN (KXAN) — On Friday, Texas reported a record 174 new coronavirus deaths. The state is now averaging over 100 COVID-19 deaths a day, and researchers warn those daily death numbers are expected to continue to climb.

“The way these trends work is cases will increase, then hospitalizations, and then mortality,” explained Dr. Spencer Fox, Associate Director of the University of Texas at Austin COVID-19 Modeling Consortium..."

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronaviru...ntive-measure/

[Blake]

"A month before Houston-area schools plan to reopen in August, scientists still do not know the role children play in spreading the disease — and the risk they and their teachers will assume when they return to campus.

“The reality is, we won’t know until we put large numbers of kids close together again,” said Dr. Michael Chang, a pediatric infectious disease specialist with McGovern Medical School at UTHealth. “Our knowledge about the virus is constantly changing. We’re still learning new things every day.”

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...l-15408806.php


Yeah but what about that one study in Sweden back in April that said it's cool to open school