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    UBI, employment insurance, moratorium on mortgage/rental payments, moratoriums on evictions, tax foreclosure and energy cutoffs.

    Free testing for anyone who needs it; 100% paid coverage COVID-19 treatment.
    Claw back last year's tax cut.

    No corporate bailouts without a public equity stake.
    Sorry bout Bernie

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    Sorry bout Bernie
    You are not, go away with yourself, silly man!

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    I'll take a stimulus with a side of reparations
    Damn, Trill be like...


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    You are not, go away with yourself, silly man!
    No I'm serious. I might have crossed over for Bernie.

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    No I'm serious. I might have crossed over for Bernie.
    WILLING SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF


    ...do go on

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    Boeing is asking for $60bn...

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    No I'm serious. I might have crossed over for Bernie.
    That train has sailed.

    Our choices are between two mentally deteriorating septuagenarians. Yay. Makes the VP pick a lot more important. President Pence... (gagging sounds)

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    They should show some responsibility on UBI rather than just give money to everyone, need to means test it. Iím actually saving money right now working from home and not commuting or eating at restaurants. Giving me free money in addition to what I already make would be dumb.
    Eyup. Give it to the millions that will be out of work.

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    The Sherrod Brown & Cory Booker $4500 a person paid up front plan is complete lunacy.

    trillion dollar tax cuts for the rich was lunacy-

    but people are conditioned to just shrug when that happens

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    Eyup. Give it to the millions that will be out of work.
    What about people at work but on reduced hours from cratered demand? Or small business owners who are seeing no customers? They have to eat too. Subsistence level UBI is a good idea because it's survival for the most vulnerable and stimulus money for everyone else.

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    Though sending 50billion to the airlines is okay? Those airlines have been raking it in with both hands for over 10 years of a bull market. Where is all that profit? Use it now to keep your company, employees included, whole.

    Not a bailout dime until they open the books and we see. NOT A IN' DIME.

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    $500B corporate slush fund administered by Mnuchin, but means testing financial aid for the poor and middle class?

    Weak.

    Also, sounds about right for Trumplandia.

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    These are scary times. The economy is coming unwound. Normal commerce is slowing to a crawl, companies aren't paying their bill's which cascades down to their suppliers and their employees. Playing the blame game at this point is stupid. We are all going to get this eventually. Massive federal stimulus is required. Wasting time to make sure its zo restricted that "someone" might benefit that didn't need it as much as another is stupid. It's all interconnected.

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    These are scary times. The economy is coming unwound. Normal commerce is slowing to a crawl, companies aren't paying their Bill's which cash adds down to their suppliers and their employees. Playing the blame game at this point is stupid. We are all going to get this eventually.
    The US Congress needs to get off its duff and help people out. No time to waste, tbh.

    The US Government has the power and resources to do much good. If it fails to use the power and resources, or uses them corruptly, it deserves the flames, now as much as ever.

    You call it the blame game, I call it political responsibilty and truth to power.

    It's understandable you'd want a get out of jail free card for Trump given how badly he's botched it so far.
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    Fannie and Freddie need to do mortgage deferrals right now. Not forgiveness, deferrals. Skip three months and roll it to the back of the loan with no interest penalty or credit rating hit. If the economy in still ed in three months roll it again. This wont get back to normal until there is a vaccine.

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    Fannie and Freddie need to do mortgage deferrals right now. Not forgiveness, deferrals. Skip three months and roll it to the back of the loan with no interest penalty or credit rating hit. If the economy in still ed in three months roll it again. This wont get back to normal until there is a vaccine.
    How to you feel about moratoriums on rent?

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    How to you feel about moratoriums on rent?
    I'm fine with that as long as landlords are reimbursed. You cant roll rent to the back like you can with a mortgage.

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    I'm fine with that as long as landlords are reimbursed. You cant roll rent to the back like you can with a mortgage.
    Plebes need to tighten their belts to share the pain and sacrifice, but it is imperative that the USG move heaven and earth to keep landlords whole.

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    Like the last depression, the federal bailout is donor facing.

    Gold-plated bailouts for landlords and mega-corporations, desultory one time checks for ordinary voters, and little to nothing for small businesses.

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    Senate cloture vote moves to 6pm ET. He doesn't have the votes yet.

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    Like the last depression, the federal bailout is donor facing.

    Gold-plated bailouts for landlords and mega-corporations, desultory one time checks for ordinary voters, and little to nothing for small businesses.
    Wasn't there 350 billion in forgiveable small business loans if they keep full employment?

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    Wasn't there 350 billion in forgiveable small business loans if they keep full employment?
    We'll see what passes. If the hospitality industry gets more than small businesses that's a travesty.

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