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    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) said that he not only intends to vote no on the bill, he intends to hold it up.

    “If it were just about helping people to get more unemployment (benefits) to get through this calamity that, frankly, the governors have wrought on the people, then I could be for it,”

    “But this is $2 trillion,” he continued.

    “Divide $2 trillion by 350 million people — it’s almost $6,000 for every man, woman and child. I’m talking about spending.

    This won’t go to the men, women and children.

    So if you have a family of five, this spending bill represents $30,000 of additional U.S. national debt because

    there is no plan to pay for it.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/republicans-are-traveling-to-dc-just-to-vote-against-the-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4117

    Other Repugs are travelling to DC to vote against the bill because of some Dem stuff and conspiracies



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    Trump is still trying to kick 700,000 people off of food stamps during an historic pandemic/recession.

    https://apnews.com/e2a2e9be5950a98f4dabcc2649aef332

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    To flatten the curve, Americans are admonished not to work, but the relief offered does not replace their income, nor will it cover necessities like rent/mortgage payments, utility bills and debt obligations. For non-medical countermeasures to work, the USG should protect a broad swath of the populace from hunger, penury, eviction and debt.

    So long as we continue to embrace a lockdown strategy, generous relief is key to securing widespread support for its maintenance. It will become politically impossible to sustain a government-mandated lockdown where workers are forced to stay at home, absent some income support to facilitate compliance with that order.
    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020...n-cronies.html

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    Under the guise of a public health emergency, though, serial corporate predators are being given dollops from this massive public trough with no means of engendering the kind of economic reconstruction that is truly needed right now, or even preventing a sufficiently robust response if this virus comes back in a second or third wave

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    It looks like the $1200 is nothing but a s game with the IRS, not really an extra $1200 given to you.

    iow, net zero income while the oligarchy, yet again, pockets $100Bs for doing nothing, with the debt "paid for" by cutting social safety net, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.

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    Here's Barr and the Repug/oligarchy royal "unitary executive" doing ing up America

    Trump says he has the power to block provision of stimulus that informs Congress where the corporate bailouts go

    In a signing statement, Trump said that

    he intends to ignore the provision of the bill

    that requires the newly-created Special Inspector General for Pandemic Recovery to report to Congress “without delay” when any other agencies in his administration refuse to provide information about how the money is being spent.


    he is granting himself authority

    to block the inspector general from reporting inter-agency obstruction to Congres
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    — even though the bill does not provide for allowing him to do so.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/tru...8460&list_id=1

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    Anonymous national company to Austin employees: give us your bailout money or be fired.

    https://www.kxan.com/news/austin-com...imulus-checks/

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    I can't wait for my 2400 smackers:::

    Lots of 1/2&1/2, no more milk in my coffee & tea.
    A pair of hundred dollar Hammacher Schlemmer slippers.

    A shopping spree at the Goodwill.

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    Anybody have any word to which the USPS got their debt wiped thru this 2.3 trillion Bill?

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    Anybody have any word to which the USPS got their debt wiped thru this 2.3 trillion Bill?
    Not I.

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    & one would figure they'd be throwing it in our face if they did.

    ..."Americans will get $1200 a piece, but, the USPS got their entire debt wiped clean."

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    & one would figure they'd be throwing it in our face if they did.

    ..."Americans will get $1200 a piece, but, the USPS got their entire debt wiped clean."
    I would say the $454B of taxpayer money given to the Fed to leverage out to the ninth power for (soon to be) insolvent banks and non-banks grates like, 20 (or 20,000 times) more -- if bailing out the USPS bothered me. It doesn't.

    Why does it bother you?

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    & one would figure they'd be throwing it in our face if they did.

    ..."Americans will get $1200 a piece, but, the USPS got their entire debt wiped clean."
    I agree the CARES Act is too heavily tilted to corporations and should have been way more generous to Joe Q. Public.

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    Bottom right quadrant:::+ $600 per week in addition to 40 weeks of Unemployment.

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    A great reason, one of many, for kicking Trash's sorry butt out office is that is his EOs, including tariffs, expire.

    btw, all those tariff $Bs Trash taxed Americans with? where are they?

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    'Tip of the Iceberg':

    Economists Warn Record 3.28 Million Jobless Claims Could Signal Coming Depression


    "We are about to experience something we cannot really imagine."

    Jobless claims last week were a record 3.28 million,

    smashing the previous high mark of 695,000 in 1982 and deepening fears of a looming economic depression that could see millions more out of work.

    While the Labor Department numbers are daunting, and catastrophic, they're likely nowhere near the whole story,

    "Absent from these unemployment claims are people with jobs in the informal economy,
    which is driven by workers who face structural barriers,
    such as formerly incarcerated people,
    undo ented immigrant workers, or
    the self-employed in dozens of industries,
    from street vendors to
    domestic workers and more,"

    Economists
    told the Washington Post that the "widespread carnage" of Thursday's initial numbers were just the beginning of what could be an unprecedented

    40 million Americans out of work by April.

    "We project that enacting the $600 weekly supplement alone will benefit some 11 million workers, delivering up to $115 billion in additional money to affected workers,"

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/26/tip-iceberg-economists-warn-record-328-million-jobless-claims-could-signal-coming?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=AO&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsl etter&utm_content=email&utm_source=Weekly%20Newsle tter&utm_medium=Email

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    'Tip of the Iceberg':

    Economists Warn Record 3.28 Million Jobless Claims Could Signal Coming Depression


    "We are about to experience something we cannot really imagine."

    Jobless claims last week were a record 3.28 million,

    smashing the previous high mark of 695,000 in 1982 and deepening fears of a looming economic depression that could see millions more out of work.

    While the Labor Department numbers are daunting, and catastrophic, they're likely nowhere near the whole story,

    "Absent from these unemployment claims are people with jobs in the informal economy,
    which is driven by workers who face structural barriers,
    such as formerly incarcerated people,
    undo ented immigrant workers, or
    the self-employed in dozens of industries,
    from street vendors to
    domestic workers and more,"

    Economists
    told the Washington Post that the "widespread carnage" of Thursday's initial numbers were just the beginning of what could be an unprecedented

    40 million Americans out of work by April.

    "We project that enacting the $600 weekly supplement alone will benefit some 11 million workers, delivering up to $115 billion in additional money to affected workers,"

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/26/tip-iceberg-economists-warn-record-328-million-jobless-claims-could-signal-coming?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=AO&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsl etter&utm_content=email&utm_source=Weekly%20Newsle tter&utm_medium=Email
    There-is-no-ceiling.

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    For those of you getting money they are saying it could be two or three months till you get it.

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    On a different note, all of the anti-socialist peeps here... Nathan89, rmt, etc, you're all returning your checks to the IRS right?
    Last edited by ElNono; 03-29-2020 at 05:35 PM.

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    For those of you getting money they are saying it could be two or three months till you get it.
    Also saying they're going to set up a Web app for people who don't have Direct Deposit thru the IRS.

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    For those of you getting money they are saying it could be two or three months till you get it.
    No one here is getting a dime.

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    No one here is getting a dime.
    Gold-plated socialism for banks and large corporations, a mere crumb for the proles to tide them over a month or so, even though many will be asked to shelter in place for up to three months.

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    (Assuming financial stress does not vitiate social distancing. If people get too hungry, too poor, or get thrown out of their houses, social distancing will fail and we atart all over again.)

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    Why will it take 3 months if you have direct deposit with the IRS? Maybe for those still dealing with snail mail.

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