Generation Power Rankings

[Will Hunting]

LOL, easy to say the same thing about today's SJWs. It was a fad filled with vain, ineffectual protests generally organized by black people. People plying their pain off of history, re-opening wounds isn't substantive. Millennials basically treat people who enlist in the army with the same disdain they do the Conversative party and also use military service to discredit and demean people who go into service.

Also, there were plenty of white activist led protests. Regardless of hippies, they were still Boomers. How can you quantify it was more substantive and altruistic?

Annddd, they got Trump elected and they're probably going to get him elected again.

Only difference? Richard Nixon was is probably the most progressive President of the modern times and his election fixed a whole lot of . The good he did certainly outweighed the bad. We'd be ecstatic and blessed if either of the past 3 Administrations achieved what he did, sans WaterGate obviously.

Unfortunately if Nixon were to run on the same platform today Sean Hannity would fall him a communist.

[Spurminator]

Occupy Wall Street (although not 5 years ago) followed that same, self-serving trendy fashion fad. The real place that should've been occupied was 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, but it was "cooler" to shout angst at evil bankers, when Barry O didn't do much to change things aside from take very healthy donations from Wall Street. But Barry O was a liberal icon for some reason, so obviously the occupiers weren't going to target "Hope and Change."

White House protests have been done before. OWS at least had a different spin. They just had a messaging/execution problem and no real leadership. Seeing how Wall Street basically has 50% of the country's retirement savings held hostage, and the ability to react to future crises faster than the general public out of self-protection, I think OWS had the right target. That big ing casino shouldn't even exist.

What other protests have been substantial? March for our Lives? No change to the gun laws, as far as I know. Environmentalism? This is a major bone I pick with millennials. Little Greta Thurnberg loves to talk about carbon emissions related to transportation, but says nothing about her generation's use of tech gadgets. "Kneeling." Lol. Nothing trendier and more self-serving than that. I'm definitely sympathetic to cause. But you know what would really be effective? Boycotting the in' season. Kneeling and then standing up to continue to getting paid your millions doesn't seem like a sincere gesture to me. Everyone is an "activist" as long as that activism doesn't come with an uncomfortable lifestyle change.

Greta Thurnberg is a FOX News boogeyman and she isn't even a Millennial. If anything, the protests of the past 4 years have lead to increased voter registration and turnout. The 2018 midterms had the highest turnout in 100 years. No one expects John Cornyn and Mitch McConnell to see the streets full of activists and think, "Gosh, maybe we SHOULD enact gun legislation."

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When millennials inherit all that money from their dead coronafied boomer parents they’ll be voting straight Tump.

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Wrong thread

[Spurminator]

LOL, easy to say the same thing about today's SJWs. It was a fad filled with vain, ineffectual protests generally organized by black people. People plying their pain off of history, re-opening wounds isn't substantive. Millennials basically treat people who enlist in the army with the same disdain they do the Conversative party and also use military service to discredit and demean people who go into service.

Protests today are much more respectful of blue collar military types and cops than they ever were in the 60's. At it's worst (Antifa), the vandalism and violence is far less than the leftist groups of the 60's.

I don't know where you're seeing disdain for military enlistees. I'm not seeing it. The targets of current protests have generally been leadership.

[midnightpulp]

White House protests have been done before. OWS at least had a different spin. They just had a messaging/execution problem and no real leadership. Seeing how Wall Street basically has 50% of the country's retirement savings held hostage, and the ability to react to future crises faster than the general public out of self-protection, I think OWS had the right target. That big ing casino shouldn't even exist.



Greta Thurnberg is a FOX News boogeyman and she isn't even a Millennial. If anything, the protests of the past 4 years have lead to increased voter registration and turnout. The 2018 midterms had the highest turnout in 100 years. No one expects John Cornyn and Mitch McConnell to see the streets full of activists and think, "Gosh, maybe we SHOULD enact gun legislation."

And they're able to do that because government policy allows them to. How is it "the right target" when Wall Street doesn't enact policy of any kind? Doesn't make sense.

Thunberg isn't a millennial, but her message resonates with the millennials, who are supposed to be the most climate aware generation, but yet every new iteration of the iPhone or whatever that comes out every year sells like in' hotcakes. Point here is that it's easy to criticize "boomer things" like their muscle car or 4x4 for polluting the environment because it's an easy target. But not a in' peep from "millennial environmentalists" about smartphones and tech gadgets in general. *Google Search* "Greta Thunberg making people rethink air travel." Where's Greta Thunberg makes people rethink smartphone usage?

I would have to agree I'm not sure what can change gun legislation across the country. The gun control camps are firmly divided.

[Splits]

I can't agree with this. I'm not challenging your anecdotes, because that is your personal experience.

Millennials are much more about experience than possession.

Yeah, as long as that experience can be shared (and then commodified) through social networking sites, which basically turns millennials into unwitting employees of facebook et al as they freely create content for those platforms. And millennials seem to only "be about experiences" if there's someone else to click the like button on their picture of avocado toast. Point is, millennials don't seek out these experiences for personal growth, but for social validation, which ironically makes them the ultimate consumers.

They're more socially conscious, and they support independent businesses more than chains.

They're connected to Amazon Prime by an umbilical cord. The massive retail apocalypse around the country, which mom-and-pop business have taken the brunt of, even more so than chains, shows that millennials aren't really about supporting local businesses and chains. My anecdote here is in that my town, I've seen mom-and-pop store after mom-and-pop store shutter, while the only store to really draw a millennial crowd was a marijuana dispensary. That's apparently what they have money for, in additional to avocado toast and smartphones.

They pose themselves as the "green generation," yet buy a new smartphone every year in addition to some other useless electronic gadget that doesn't really solve a problem, like those idiotic smart speakers. I said in another thread, the carbon footprint of smartphone use and manufacturing is projected to be greater than carbon footprint of transportation in 20 years.

They don't vote. They are either apathetic (yet complain on twitter) or sulk when their pet candidate doesn't win a primary and cut their noses off to spite their face. Boo hoo, in' Bernie didn't win the 2016 nom. Most of us will never, ever have a candidate that aligns with all of our values, and the best thing you can do in most cases is vote for the lesser of two evils. Millennials took their ball and went home in 2016, and Donald in' Trump was the result.

Their music is unbelievably ty, and always has been. But that's subjective. So are movies that cater to their tastes, especially these in' superhero films.

Memorialize this post. Mid bringin' his biggest hammer

[Will Hunting]

When millennials inherit all that money from their dead coronafied boomer parents they’ll be voting straight Tump.

Sad but true for those it applies to, however wealth inequality only gets worse from one generation to the other so there won’t be as many rich millennials.

My silent generation grandpa just died and left $4 million or so behind, but the boomers in my family are jackasses when it comes to money so I’m never gonna see any of it

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My silent generation grandpa just died and left $4 million or so behind, but the boomers in my family are jackasses when it comes to money so I’m never gonna see any of it

Maybe that’s why you’re so bitter about boomers.

and midnightpulp
“ That's apparently what they have money for, in additional to avocado toast and smartphones. ”
How could you forget Starbucks $4 fruitified coffees. But I guess Starbucks employs all their woke brothers and sisters who majored in medieval art history and Japanese oragami.

[midnightpulp]

Unfortunately if Nixon were to run on the same platform today Sean Hannity would fall him a communist.

This is why Cortez or any future Bernie type needs to drop the "socialism" label. First of all, they aren't actually socialists (as traditionally defined by workers controlling the means of production and all that). Second of all, socialism simply has a negative stigma in this country as a result of our pissing match with the Soviets for 50 years. Even millennials favor capitalism over "socialism." Cortez, Bernie, and future Bernies need to relabel themselves "democratic capitalists," which would actually be more accurate. Then, in every speech they make, every tv appearance they make, show the people what the tax rates were during the middle class boom years in this country. Go on Hannity and confront him directly. "So Sean, you have a problem with my tax plan? Well guess what, they are actually LOWER than the rates during the 1950s America you profess to love." Tell the people about how Eisenhower favored a universal health care system. Basically communicate to Americans that their ideas aren't particularly left field.

Bernie and Cortez really don't how to communicate their message to "low information voters," and it should be their job to do that. We can criticize people for not doing research, but it's the politicians job to sell themselves and their ideas to you, not for that Joe the Plumber type to sit around for hours and hours sifting through all the bull in order to get a grasp on what you're about, especially with all the clickbait media and half-truth information out there. Being politically "aware" has almost become a full time job.

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Unfortunately if Nixon were to run on the same platform today Sean Hannity would fall him a communist.

Btw Turns out the worst thing Nixon did wasn’t Watergate, it was opening up China

[midnightpulp]

Maybe that’s why you’re so bitter about boomers.

and midnightpulp
“ That's apparently what they have money for, in additional to avocado toast and smartphones. ”
How could you forget Starbucks $4 fruitified coffees. But I guess Starbucks employs all their woke brothers and sisters who majored in medieval art history and Japanese oragami.

Yeah, they like Starbucks. Ultimately, though, generations aren't very different from each other. This has been going on since the dawn of time, with the ancient Greeks criticizing the youth of the day.

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Yeah, they like Starbucks. Ultimately, though, generations aren't very different from each other. This has been going on since the dawn of time, with the ancient Greeks criticizing the youth of the day.

Yep. Grandparents, parents, children. Everybody get their turn.

[Spurminator]

And they're able to do that because government policy allows them to. How is it "the right target" when Wall Street doesn't enact policy of any kind? Doesn't make sense.

It draws attention at the source of the problem. I don't think whether they're camped out on the White House lawn or on Wall Street makes any difference in visibility to legislators.

Thunberg isn't a millennial, but her message resonates with the millennials, who are supposed to be the most climate aware generation, but yet every new iteration of the iPhone or whatever that comes out every year sells like in' hotcakes. Point here is that it's easy to criticize "boomer things" like their muscle car or 4x4 for polluting the environment because it's an easy target. But not a in' peep from "millennial environmentalists" about smartphones and tech gadgets in general. *Google Search* "Greta Thunberg making people rethink air travel." Where's Greta Thunberg makes people rethink smartphone usage?

It's usage vs. manufacture. There's certainly a lack of awareness and concern about the conditions where smart devices are manufactured, but the individual use of such devices doesn't have any impact on the environment the way the use of private jets or muscle cars do. From a personal responsibility standpoint, Millennials are way ahead of their predecessors.

[Spurminator]

Also pretty much everyone has a smart device at this point, so it's hard to single out a generation for the negative environmental impacts of those.

[spurraider21]

This is why Cortez or any future Bernie type needs to drop the "socialism" label. First of all, they aren't actually socialists (as traditionally defined by workers controlling the means of production and all that). Second of all, socialism simply has a negative stigma in this country as a result of our pissing match with the Soviets for 50 years. Even millennials favor capitalism over "socialism." Cortez, Bernie, and future Bernies need to relabel themselves "democratic capitalists," which would actually be more accurate. Then, in every speech they make, every tv appearance they make, show the people what the tax rates were during the middle class boom years in this country. Go on Hannity and confront him directly. "So Sean, you have a problem with my tax plan? Well guess what, they are actually LOWER than the rates during the 1950s America you profess to love." Tell the people about how Eisenhower favored a universal health care system. Basically communicate to Americans that their ideas aren't particularly left field.

Bernie and Cortez really don't how to communicate their message to "low information voters," and it should be their job to do that. We can criticize people for not doing research, but it's the politicians job to sell themselves and their ideas to you, not for that Joe the Plumber type to sit around for hours and hours sifting through all the bull in order to get a grasp on what you're about, especially with all the clickbait media and half-truth information out there. Being politically "aware" has almost become a full time job.

the more apt term for what they represent would be Social Democrat, instead of Democratic Socialist. i used to think those were identical (just switching word order), but they're quite different

[Monostradamus]

Also, the entire ing world is addicted to smartphones. It’s really disingenuous to act like Millennials are the only group obsessed with their phones when everybody of every age is completely dependent on them.

[midnightpulp]

It draws attention at the source of the problem. I don't think whether they're camped out on the White House lawn or on Wall Street makes any difference in visibility to legislators.



It's usage vs. manufacture. There's certainly a lack of awareness and concern about the conditions where smart devices are manufactured, but the use of such devices doesn't have any impact on the environment the way the use of private jets or muscle cars do. From a personal responsibility standpoint, Millennials are way ahead of their predecessors.

More usage translates to more manufacture. The projections are in.

"If trends continue, ICT will account for as much as 14 percent of the total global footprint by 2040, or about half of the entire transportation sector worldwide,”

https://weather.com/science/environm...killing-planet

And that's just the manufacturing side of the equation. What about the carbon footprint and resulting pollution of the disposal of all this e-waste? That's where the muscle car is "more responsible" because you don't dispose of one and continuously rebuy the next "model." No, they are not "way ahead." Boomers are still using 2007 Dell Inspirons to sluggishly log onto to facebook to see pictures of their grandkids, while millennials need the latest tech gadget (laptop, video card, smartphone, high definition television, smart speaker, etc, etc) every year, and like Pelotons and smart fridges are totally unnecessary.

https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2...ternal-design/

[FrostKing]

Any generation that considers Rap/Hip Hop their favorite music automatically scores the worst in IQ, social norms and personal taste

Furthermore isn't the current generation a growing weird half breed race?

[midnightpulp]

Also, the entire ing world is addicted to smartphones. It’s really disingenuous to act like Millennials are the only group obsessed with their phones when everybody of every age is completely dependent on them.

https://www.emarketer.com/chart/2192...ion-each-group
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insigh...rtphone-users/

And this is just ownership. I'd bet a significant amount of money that millennials and zoomers make more multiple purchases of smartphones over 5 year cycles.

[Spurminator]

What about the carbon footprint and resulting pollution of the disposal of all this e-waste? That's where the muscle car is "more responsible" because you don't dispose of one and continuously rebuy the next "model." No, they are not "way ahead." Boomers are still using 2007 Dell Inspirons to sluggishly log onto to facebook to see pictures of their grandkids, while millennials need the latest tech gadget (laptop, video card, smartphone, high definition television, smart speaker, etc, etc) every year, and like Pelotons and smart fridges are totally unnecessary.

https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2...ternal-design/

You're comparing one thing with a 90%+ cultural penetration to something that 1 in every several hundred or people owns. A millennial could own and swap 100 smart devices in his lifetime and not achieve a fraction of the carbon footprint of a single Camero. They deserve credit for eschewing big pollutants on an individual level.

I can't hold it against them for keeping up with technology. We depend on apps and software that quickly become obsolete thanks to obsolescence schedules put in place by people who aren't millennials.

Boomers are using the 2007 Dell because old people resist change, not because they give a about the environment . And when it stops working, they're going to toss it in the garbage because recycling is for s.

[midnightpulp]

Also pretty much everyone has a smart device at this point, so it's hard to single out a generation for the negative environmental impacts of those.

Again, it's not the use necessarily, but the manufacture, where the strip mining and such has a big carbon footprint. Not to mention the carbon footprint with regard to disposal. Sure, a boomer might be addicted to their smartphone, but they're likely still using something from the mid-10s, while millennials line up like lemmings every year to buy the latest horse from Apple or Samsung because it has 3 cameras or some other frivolous feature like morphing your face into an emoji.

[koriwhat]

Maybe that’s why you’re so bitter about boomers.

and midnightpulp
“ That's apparently what they have money for, in additional to avocado toast and smartphones. ”
How could you forget Starbucks $4 fruitified coffees. But I guess Starbucks employs all their woke brothers and sisters who majored in medieval art history and Japanese oragami.

When millennials inherit all that money from their dead coronafied boomer parents they’ll be voting straight Tump.

you're on a roll today

[koriwhat]

Also, the entire ing world is addicted to smartphones. It’s really disingenuous to act like Millennials are the only group obsessed with their phones when everybody of every age is completely dependent on them.

it's not their phones they're obsessed with... it's what the phone accesses which is nothing but porn and narcissistic social media sites/apps. get rid of it all for all i care!

our phones should strictly be for conversation and gps. nothing more, nothing less.

[Monostradamus]

https://www.emarketer.com/chart/2192...ion-each-group
https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insigh...rtphone-users/

And this is just ownership. I'd bet a significant amount of money that millennials and zoomers make more multiple purchases of smartphones over 5 year cycles.

Biggest smartphone users doesn’t mean they’re the only ones obsessed with smartphones.

And yeah, those 60+ year olds with a 76% usage rate are totally not dependent