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    2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

    https://knoema.com/atlas/United-Stat...ica/Death-rate

    .0088 for the year, by the end of the year.

    2904000 dead from all causes, before COVID.

    200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

    +250k.... divide by 330M...

    End of year figure will be around .0096

    There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

    At about that rate or above, you have been deeply mislead by the propaganda you consume.

    It is just that simple.

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    Its less that .03 but keep going. You dont understand the data. The whole month has been decline in fatality and hospitalization percent. State reporting and cdc all fatalities data sets. Youve been duped. Admit it.
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

    CDC best guess is 3.4%

    I will assume they are roughly correct, unless you have better information.

    (edit) Feel free to provide better data. I work in insurance and am very good with statistics, with access to actuaries who have specialized degrees and multiple levels of professional certification in it. I ask them questions if I need to understand anything involving the math. It is a mistake on your part, generally, to assume I do not understand any given math.

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    2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

    https://knoema.com/atlas/United-Stat...ica/Death-rate

    .0088 for the year, by the end of the year.

    2904000 dead from all causes, before COVID.

    200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

    +250k.... divide by 330M...

    End of year figure will be around .0096

    There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

    At about that rate or above, you have been deeply mislead by the propaganda you consume.

    It is just that simple.
    Wrong

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    (shrugs)

    if so, then show how.

    Or wave your hands some more, and stomp your feet. That will really show me. Change the subject when confronted is always a winning strategy. You know you want to. Go on, Conservative Avenger.

    (folds arms, leans on wall with expectant look)

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    (shrugs)

    if so, then show how.

    Or wave your hands some more, and stomp your feet. That will really show me. Change the subject when confronted is always a winning strategy. You know you want to. Go on, Conservative Avenger.

    (folds arms, leans on wall with expectant look)
    Its under .03.

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    Hand-waving. If you could reasonably justify it, you would have.

    Kid, I've been debating on the internet since there has been an internet. You are nothing new.

    People like you hop yourself up, mainlining conservative propaganda that tells you over and over how dumb liberals are, and how smart you and your ideology is.

    You get super high on this bull bong, then come in here thinking you are Billy Bad Ass, the Conservative Avenger.

    Then you meet an actual liberal or two who isn't an idiot. The very first time you have to prove yourself against a skilled opponent, you fail spectacularly.

    You fail by making assertions without providing proof.

    You fail by not answering questions honestly.

    You fail by simply waving away arguments and deflecting.

    These are reasoning failures. You do this here repeatedly.

    You are the poster children for the Dunning-Kruger effect. You have vastly overestimated your abilities relative to mine, and you know it even if you aren't aware of it.

    It's ok. I dont expect much from an ideology that punishes critical thinking. I hope someday you de-program yourself, really I do.

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    Hand-waving. If you could reasonably justify it, you would have.

    Kid, I've been debating on the internet since there has been an internet. You are nothing new.

    People like you hop yourself up, mainlining conservative propaganda that tells you over and over how dumb liberals are, and how smart you and your ideology is.

    You get super high on this bull bong, then come in here thinking you are Billy Bad Ass, the Conservative Avenger.

    Then you meet an actual liberal or two who isn't an idiot. The very first time you have to prove yourself against a skilled opponent, you fail spectacularly.

    You fail by making assertions without providing proof.

    You fail by not answering questions honestly.

    You fail by simply waving away arguments and deflecting.

    These are reasoning failures. You do this here repeatedly.

    You are the poster children for the Dunning-Kruger effect. You have vastly overestimated your abilities relative to mine, and you know it even if you aren't aware of it.

    It's ok. I dont expect much from an ideology that punishes critical thinking. I hope someday you de-program yourself, really I do.
    I'm pretty sure that's the only experience you have at any of this.

    There's a lot of Wild Cobra running around these days. He must be your daddy.

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    I'm pretty sure that's the only experience you have at any of this.

    There's a lot of Wild Cobra running around these days. He must be your daddy.
    You fail by making assertions without providing proof.

    You fail by not answering questions honestly.

    You fail by simply waving away arguments and deflecting.

    These are reasoning failures. You do this here repeatedly.

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    you keep spinning the wheel of guesses and coming up empty. I don't sell anything.
    I haven't read a single thing about ELISA since you started yapping, except that you said you developed it.
    You suck at this.
    got the emoticons

    yeah I suck at this so bad you don’t want to touch it anymore.
    that’s a good thing for you
    next time you mouth off about a prediction I make because of an article I have read you might wanna keep your yap shut.

    you don’t understand this stuff and that’s OK.
    your inability to admit it, that’s on you.

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    Tell us about models again.
    That was fun.
    They were wrong. Its been proven. Next....

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    So in a typical 2 month timespan in the US 6,000 people die in car wrecks. How many people died in car wrecks in the two months and were called COVID deaths? About 8,000 Americans kill themselves every two months. How many of those suicides were marked COVID deaths? Let's say they all were. So 84,000 real COVID deaths in two months makes it the flu?
    You been had. Facts be facts look at data

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    They were wrong. Its been proven. Next....
    yes that happens in science.

    so now what do you do with the model?
    what did we do with newtons simple mathematical models when we found out they made mistakes under certain situations? i’m using physics here because it’s actually much easier easier to make models for.

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    yes that happens in science.

    so now what do you do with the model?
    what did we do with newtons simple mathematical models when we found out they made mistakes under certain situations? i’m using physics here because it’s actually much easier easier to make models for.
    stop your gossiping

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    Thread, come get your sandwich.

    Update (29 May 2020):::
    Trump Corona Plague dead: 104,542
    Regular Flu dead: 23+k
    Spanish Flu dead: 275k
    Obama's H1N1 flu dead: 12.5k

    Let us proceed...

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    stop your gossiping
    man of science...

    ok...

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    man of science...

    ok...
    Would have saved you the embarrassment of being wrong.

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    Would have saved you the embarrassment of being wrong.
    Concerning what?

    Think of something, anything...
    Beside that foldren, our man of science, layed the cards down when asked a simple question.

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    got the emoticons

    yeah I suck at this so bad you don’t want to touch it anymore.
    that’s a good thing for you
    next time you mouth off about a prediction I make because of an article I have read you might wanna keep your yap shut.
    That makes absolutely zero sense. Par for you.
    you don’t understand this stuff and that’s OK.
    your inability to admit it, that’s on you.
    You've been saying for months/years that I am afraid of you for some reason yet here I am still responding to you. What exactly do you see that creates this delusion that you've intimidated me?

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    Concerning what?

    Think of something, anything...
    Beside that foldren, our man of science, layed the cards down when asked a simple question.

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    this guy, when he eats pork he’s a cannibal

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    this guy, when he eats pork he’s a cannibal
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    What did the drummer call his twin daughters? Anna one, Anna two!
    How did Darth Vader know what Luke got him for Christmas? He felt his presents!
    Did you hear about the chameleon who couldn't change color? He had a reptile dysfunction.
    I wanted to go on a diet, but I feel like I have way too much on my plate right now.
    Want to hear a joke about construction? I'm still working on it.
    What’s Forrest Gump’s password? 1forrest1
    What sound does a witches car make? Broom Broom
    To whoever stole my copy of Microsoft Office, I will find you. You have my Word!
    What does a zombie vegetarian eat? “GRRRAAAIINS!”
    This graveyard looks overcrowded. People must be dying to get in there.
    What does a nosey pepper do? It gets jalapeno business!
    I tell dad jokes, but I don't have any kids. I'm a faux pa.
    Whenever the cashier at the grocery store asks my dad if he would like the milk in a bag he replies, "No, just leave it in the carton!"
    Two goldfish are in a tank. One says to the other, "do you know how to drive this thing?"
    What’s that Nevada city where all the dentists visit? Floss Vegas.
    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
    You’re American when you go into the bathroom, and you’re American when you come out, but do you know what you are while you’re in there? European.
    Why did the picture go to jail? Because it was framed.
    What do you call a bear without any teeth? A gummy bear!
    What do you call a hippie's wife? Mississippi.
    The shovel was a ground-breaking invention.
    Dad, can you put the cat out? I didn't know it was on fire.
    Does anyone need an ark? I Noah guy!
    How do you make holy water? You boil the out of it.
    5/4 of people admit that they’re bad with fractions.
    What do you call a man with a rubber toe? Roberto.
    I would avoid the sushi if I was you. It’s a little fishy.
    To the man in the wheelchair that stole my camouflage jacket... You can hide but you can't run.
    What do you call a fish with two knees? A two-knee fish!
    I bought some shoes from a drug dealer. I don't know what he laced them with, but I was tripping all day!
    The rotation of earth really makes my day.
    I thought about going on an all-almond diet. But that's just nuts.
    Did you know the first French fries weren't actually cooked in France? They were cooked in Greece.
    I’ve never gone to a gun range before. I decided to give it a shot!
    What's black and white and goes around and around? A penguin in a revolving door.




    Why do you never see elephants hiding in trees? Because they're so good at it.
    My son screeched, "Daaaaaad, you haven't listened to one word I've said, have you!?" What a strange way to start a conversation with me...
    Did you hear about the kidnapping at school? It's fine, he woke up.
    What did the caretaker say when they jumped out of the store cupboard? “Supplies!”
    If a child refuses to sleep during nap time, are they guilty of resisting a rest?
    A furniture store keeps calling me. All I wanted was one night stand.
    I used to work in a shoe recycling shop. It was sole destroying.
    Did I tell you the time I fell in love during a backflip? I was heels over head.
    My wife is really mad at the fact that I have no sense of direction. So I packed up my stuff and right.
    Did you hear about the restaurant on the moon? Great food, no atmosphere.
    When does a joke become a dad joke? When it becomes apparent!
    What do you call a fake noodle? An Impasta.




    My friend keeps saying "cheer up man it could be worse, you could be stuck underground in a hole full of water." I know he means well.
    What time did the man go to the dentist? Tooth hurt-y!
    I just watched a program about beavers. It was the best dam program I've ever seen.
    Why did the coffee file a police report? It got mugged.
    I ordered a chicken and an egg from Amazon. I’ll let you know.
    How does a penguin build it's house? Igloos it together.
    What did the fried rice say to the shrimp? Don't wok away from me.
    Dad, did you get a haircut? No, I got them all cut.
    The secret service isn't allowed to yell "Get down!" anymore when the president is about to be attacked. Now they have to yell "Donald Duck!"
    Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: “Does this taste funny to you?”
    Why did the scarecrow win an award? Because he was outstanding in his field.
    What do you call a man who can’t stand? Neil.
    I’m thinking about removing my spine. I feel like it’s only holding me back.
    Why don't skeletons ever go trick or treating? Because they have no body to go with.
    How do you make a tissue dance? You put a little boogie in it.
    What do you call an elephant that doesn't matter? An irrelephant.
    Best Dad Jokes, Funny Dad Jokes

    What do you call cheese that isn't yours? Nacho Cheese.
    Why couldn't the bicycle stand up by itself? It was two tired.
    I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. It's impossible to put down!
    What did the grape do when he got stepped on? He let out a little wine.
    I wouldn't buy anything with velcro. It's a total rip-off.
    Why are cats bad storytellers? Because they only have one tale.
    Why was the belt sent to jail? For holding up a pair of pants!
    What do you call a baby monkey? A chimp off the old block.
    What’s an astronaut’s favorite part of a computer? The space bar.
    Do you think glass coffins will be a success? Remains to be seen.
    What lies at the bottom of the ocean and twitches? A nervous wreck.


    What happens when a frogs car dies? He needs a jump. If that doesn't work he has to get it toad.
    Did you hear about the scientist who was lab partners with a pot of boiling water? He had a very esteemed colleague.

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    Best Dad Jokes


    What did the drummer call his twin daughters? Anna one, Anna two!
    How did Darth Vader know what Luke got him for Christmas? He felt his presents!
    Did you hear about the chameleon who couldn't change color? He had a reptile dysfunction.
    I wanted to go on a diet, but I feel like I have way too much on my plate right now.
    Want to hear a joke about construction? I'm still working on it.
    What’s Forrest Gump’s password? 1forrest1
    What sound does a witches car make? Broom Broom
    To whoever stole my copy of Microsoft Office, I will find you. You have my Word!
    What does a zombie vegetarian eat? “GRRRAAAIINS!”
    This graveyard looks overcrowded. People must be dying to get in there.
    What does a nosey pepper do? It gets jalapeno business!
    I tell dad jokes, but I don't have any kids. I'm a faux pa.
    Whenever the cashier at the grocery store asks my dad if he would like the milk in a bag he replies, "No, just leave it in the carton!"
    Two goldfish are in a tank. One says to the other, "do you know how to drive this thing?"
    What’s that Nevada city where all the dentists visit? Floss Vegas.
    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
    You’re American when you go into the bathroom, and you’re American when you come out, but do you know what you are while you’re in there? European.
    Why did the picture go to jail? Because it was framed.
    What do you call a bear without any teeth? A gummy bear!
    What do you call a hippie's wife? Mississippi.
    The shovel was a ground-breaking invention.
    Dad, can you put the cat out? I didn't know it was on fire.
    Does anyone need an ark? I Noah guy!
    How do you make holy water? You boil the out of it.
    5/4 of people admit that they’re bad with fractions.
    What do you call a man with a rubber toe? Roberto.
    I would avoid the sushi if I was you. It’s a little fishy.
    To the man in the wheelchair that stole my camouflage jacket... You can hide but you can't run.
    What do you call a fish with two knees? A two-knee fish!
    I bought some shoes from a drug dealer. I don't know what he laced them with, but I was tripping all day!
    The rotation of earth really makes my day.
    I thought about going on an all-almond diet. But that's just nuts.
    Did you know the first French fries weren't actually cooked in France? They were cooked in Greece.
    I’ve never gone to a gun range before. I decided to give it a shot!
    What's black and white and goes around and around? A penguin in a revolving door.




    Why do you never see elephants hiding in trees? Because they're so good at it.
    My son screeched, "Daaaaaad, you haven't listened to one word I've said, have you!?" What a strange way to start a conversation with me...
    Did you hear about the kidnapping at school? It's fine, he woke up.
    What did the caretaker say when they jumped out of the store cupboard? “Supplies!”
    If a child refuses to sleep during nap time, are they guilty of resisting a rest?
    A furniture store keeps calling me. All I wanted was one night stand.
    I used to work in a shoe recycling shop. It was sole destroying.
    Did I tell you the time I fell in love during a backflip? I was heels over head.
    My wife is really mad at the fact that I have no sense of direction. So I packed up my stuff and right.
    Did you hear about the restaurant on the moon? Great food, no atmosphere.
    When does a joke become a dad joke? When it becomes apparent!
    What do you call a fake noodle? An Impasta.




    My friend keeps saying "cheer up man it could be worse, you could be stuck underground in a hole full of water." I know he means well.
    What time did the man go to the dentist? Tooth hurt-y!
    I just watched a program about beavers. It was the best dam program I've ever seen.
    Why did the coffee file a police report? It got mugged.
    I ordered a chicken and an egg from Amazon. I’ll let you know.
    How does a penguin build it's house? Igloos it together.
    What did the fried rice say to the shrimp? Don't wok away from me.
    Dad, did you get a haircut? No, I got them all cut.
    The secret service isn't allowed to yell "Get down!" anymore when the president is about to be attacked. Now they have to yell "Donald Duck!"
    Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: “Does this taste funny to you?”
    Why did the scarecrow win an award? Because he was outstanding in his field.
    What do you call a man who can’t stand? Neil.
    I’m thinking about removing my spine. I feel like it’s only holding me back.
    Why don't skeletons ever go trick or treating? Because they have no body to go with.
    How do you make a tissue dance? You put a little boogie in it.
    What do you call an elephant that doesn't matter? An irrelephant.
    Best Dad Jokes, Funny Dad Jokes

    What do you call cheese that isn't yours? Nacho Cheese.
    Why couldn't the bicycle stand up by itself? It was two tired.
    I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. It's impossible to put down!
    What did the grape do when he got stepped on? He let out a little wine.
    I wouldn't buy anything with velcro. It's a total rip-off.
    Why are cats bad storytellers? Because they only have one tale.
    Why was the belt sent to jail? For holding up a pair of pants!
    What do you call a baby monkey? A chimp off the old block.
    What’s an astronaut’s favorite part of a computer? The space bar.
    Do you think glass coffins will be a success? Remains to be seen.
    What lies at the bottom of the ocean and twitches? A nervous wreck.


    What happens when a frogs car dies? He needs a jump. If that doesn't work he has to get it toad.
    Did you hear about the scientist who was lab partners with a pot of boiling water? He had a very esteemed colleague.
    Whew, that’s a lot of work there, gravy boat

    Better get a snack!

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    Whew, that’s a lot of work there, gravy boat

    Better get a snack!
    hurr durr

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    That makes absolutely zero sense. Par for you.


    You've been saying for months/years that I am afraid of you for some reason yet here I am still responding to you. What exactly do you see that creates this delusion that you've intimidated me?
    of course you don’t remember or It doesn’t make sense or it’s word salad

    you get in little hissy fights with any member of this board that makes you look bad because you have to have that W
    how many times do I need to post this before you get it?



    I can aid you in your quest.
    do you want me to go back and find the post again and repost it for you?
    I think it’s an important part of the whole virus debate. it actually gives us a bit of hope for a vaccine sooner then we might’ve thought.

    bottom line is you said some really stupid stuff about things you don’t know but you will never admit that
    mass spectrometer.... just throw that out there for the rest of the board so it makes you look like you know what you’re talking about when it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Keep going old man

    dig that hole Ms Crutchfield

    protien -laughing emoticon-
    Last edited by pgardn; 05-30-2020 at 09:31 AM.

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    of course you don’t remember or It doesn’t make sense or it’s word salad

    you get in little hissy fights with any member of this board that makes you look bad because you have to have that W
    how many times do I need to post this before you get it?



    I can aid you in your quest.
    do you want me to go back and find the post again and repost it for you?
    I think it’s an important part of the whole virus debate. it actually gives us a bit of hope for a vaccine sooner then we might’ve thought.

    bottom line is you said some really stupid stuff about things you don’t know but you will never admit that
    mass spectrometer.... just throw that out there for the rest of the board so it makes you look like you know what you’re talking about when it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Keep going old man

    dig that hole Ms Crutchfield

    protien -laughing emoticon-
    you thought neil furguson was right. Now silent during the riots. Youre not scientific. Just a karen

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