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    The bungling is getting bad.

    Disbanded white house pandemic unit

    hollowed out federal agencies headed by "acting" idiots whose only qualification is loyalty

    First it was:
    "its under control"
    "its a democrat hoax"
    "we will see zero cases"
    "not worried"

    waited too long to roll out mass testing.

    forced a super-spreading event by testing everybody coming back from overseas in crowded airports

    Selectively holding back ventilators from hardest hit areas.

    Free for all in bidding war pitting states against federal government

    now we have "get back to work" and "let's see packed churches"

    can't follow the plan

    no coordinated federal response with governors

    meaningless county by county risk categorization

    Dumb ass thinks he can quarantine whole states, got his pee pee spanked by lawyers telling him his idea was stupid. (tweet s)

    Dude can't bluff his way out of this , is out of his depth, and it shows.
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 03-28-2020 at 08:08 PM.

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    Orange stain.

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    Flu Virus going savage on Trump and his bestest people ever


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    This helps

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    Yea,its been one uva show

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    Trump has ordered a take down order on this thread.

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    Giving him a pass because "magic R" is better?

    Not speaking up when you see people's lives in danger is better?

    I analyze risk, risk-mitigation strategies, management and business systems for a living. Quite frankly, this has been run appallingly badly, and is getting worse.

    That poor performance was "baked in" to this crisis. Hollowed out leadership, loyalty over competence or subject area expertise, etc.

    This crisis was foreseeable. Do not give this guy a pass here. That does NOT help. When government is ing up, we have to speak up.

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    Trash has been out of his depth since March 2015

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    This deserved a thread of its own for sure. Otherwise how would anyone here ascertain your feelings on the matter?

    If you receive any type of stimulus money I fully expect you to reject it because of the administration who sent it to you. You should instead redirect towards the victims of the coronavirus who were disenfranchised by this Administration. I am more than certain you won't do that.

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    Im keeping score s:

    - close down china flights = + 2 weeks
    - waiting a month before doing anything else = -2 weeks
    - botched CDC tests = -2 weeks
    - not enough tests = -3 weeks
    - terrible supply chain of ventilators/PPE = -1 week
    - will label counties as safe/risky with q sharpie = -7 weeks

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    Trump pulling out the sharpies again. will label his safe/risky counties

    this will go well


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    corrupt, grifter Trash was out of his depth as a businessman, squandered his inheritance and bankrupted 6 times, forced to launder money for the Russian mafiya, failed at selling crap merchandise, stole money from his charity, and fined for a fraudulent "university"

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    As the orange monkey said: They have the tests and the tests are beautiful., so no worries.

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    This deserved a thread of its own for sure. Otherwise how would anyone here ascertain your feelings on the matter?

    If you receive any type of stimulus money I fully expect you to reject it because of the administration who sent it to you. You should instead redirect towards the victims of the coronavirus who were disenfranchised by this Administration. I am more than certain you won't do that.
    I’m not getting any stimulus money but if I were I’d send it to where it would do the most good, Amy McGrath fund raising committee.

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    [ignores substance of criticisms, personal attack on OP]
    No-take McGurk strikes again.

    [indifference]

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    I’m not getting any stimulus money but if I were I’d send it to where it would do the most good, Amy McGrath fund raising committee.
    Act Blue has a specific campaign, as well as one for Collin's opponent. Collins is going to be toast for her vote to strip out pandemic funding a few years ago.

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    Act Blue has a specific campaign, as well as one for Collin's opponent. Collins is going to be toast for her vote to strip out pandemic funding a few years ago.
    After Trash Moscow Mitch, the cons ution killer, is the diseased whale that needs harpooning most.

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    This deserved a thread of its own for sure. Otherwise how would anyone here ascertain your feelings on the matter?

    If you receive any type of stimulus money I fully expect you to reject it because of the administration who sent it to you. You should instead redirect towards the victims of the coronavirus who were disenfranchised by this Administration. I am more than certain you won't do that.
    This no going out/no friends having got definitely wont be in any danger of dying from coronavirus.

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    "I don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventiliators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they'll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they're saying "Can we order 30,000 ventiliators?"
    Perfect example. No specific hospital is asking for that. He is confusing what the state of New York is asking for, with what the hospitals themselves are asking for.

    Moreover, his willingness to help appears to be tied to how much any governor is kissing his ass.

    Is that the criteria for help now?

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    This no going out/no friends having got definitely wont be in any danger of dying from coronavirus.
    I see you have me in the crushing grip of reason.

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    Trumps panepedemic plan, kill people’s as quickly as possible and hope the market recovers by election time.

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    There was a prepared WRITTEN plan left by obama admin professionals-
    detailing steps to be taken....


    even with a PLAYBOOK - spoon fed by the outgoing administration-

    and THREE ING YEARS head start-

    they still bungled the out of this- causing all the misery we are seeing today.


    China.
    Trump and his impotent complicit sycophants.
    all the complicit fellators still fellating.

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    There was a prepared WRITTEN plan left by obama admin professionals-
    detailing steps to be taken....


    even with a PLAYBOOK - spoon fed by the outgoing administration-

    and THREE ING YEARS head start-

    they still bungled the out of this- causing all the misery we are seeing today.


    China.
    Trump and his impotent complicit sycophants.
    all the complicit fellators still fellating.
    Oh, yeah, Obama left 12.5k dead-in-the-ground for His Flu. But, it wasn't an Election Year, & he wasn't White. So, it was fine & dandy.

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    Oh, yeah, Obama left 12.5k dead-in-the-ground for His Flu. But, it wasn't an Election Year, & he wasn't White. So, it was fine & dandy.
    3 YEARS - to implement TRUMPS pandemic team/plan

    3 years

    cages were built for “caravans”
    tents and propaganda were skillfully orchestrated for “aliens”
    trumps rhetoric about “invaders” caused and is directly responsible for at least the pittsburgh and el paso massacres- and trump directly has blood on his hands for those


    YOU cheered all of the above.


    3 years


    ZERO plans for TRUMPS own emergency pandemic team/plan.




    ZERO




    self-evident failure of leadership

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    Trump's DHS scrapped the system that was supposed to prepare the nation for enduring a pandemic

    It’s not just that Donald

    Trump and company actively took apart the team that was designed to provide a national response to pandemics.

    Even within the agencies and systems that remained,

    disaster response of all kinds—and pandemic response in particular—was devalued, ignored, and allowed to simply disappear.

    there appears to be no reason at all why the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) stopped planning for pandemics.

    For more than a decade, DHS held an annual simulation of how a pandemic would affect America,

    looking for critical holes in the nation’s infrastructure and

    making proposals to shore up weaknesses in both health care and transportation.

    But as soon as Trump took office, this planning simply … stopped.


    Before they ever took over the White House,

    the Trump team was warned that in such an emergency

    they could face challenges such as

    “shortages of ventilators,

    anti-viral drugs, and

    other medical essentials” and

    that a “coordinated, unified national response was 'paramount'” in saving lives and holding the nation together.


    Just last fall, the Department of Health and Human Services staged a simulated pandemic as

    Operation Crimson Contagion,


    which again modeled a virus that caused fever and respiratory illness emerging from China to sweep around the world.

    The report on that exercise was clear in its
    results:

    The Trump White House was woefully unprepared in its response.

    The White House failed to give the states enough funding to respond,

    didn’t provide clear access to federal resources,

    didn’t set up any clear leadership,

    failed to issue national guidelines for how states should respond, and

    didn’t have anything set up for how agencies could do their work remotely.


    In short, that exercise seemed to

    predict everything that would go wrong in real life starting just two months later.

    not only did the Trump team simply stop updating the information when they took office—

    they didn’t even bother to preserve what had already been done.

    Agencies that are now scrambling for the results generated

    before Trump allowed the system to wither are finding the information “scattered,”

    when it can be found at all.

    there’s a simple answer:

    Under Trump,

    the DHS has become “singularly focused on border enforcement”

    at the expense of everything else.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1931067


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