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    Dude is a pilot and failed crypto broker.
    What dude?

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    Dude who wrote the deleted medium article.

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    Dude who wrote the deleted medium article.
    If it's link in op, I can't get to that. My company blocks webarchive.

    Is the paper posted by snakeboy legit?

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    If it's link in op, I can't get to that. My company blocks webarchive.

    Is the paper posted by snakeboy legit?
    As far as an open journal for prepublication articles with no information on the authors or any peer review goes, sure.

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    What are y'all even talking about?
    Chump is scared to click on the link I gave so he's pretending the researchers are pilots

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    As far as an open journal for prepublication articles with no information on the authors or any peer review goes, sure.
    Authors are Yale researchers...right wingers amirite?

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    Chump is scared to click on the link I gave so he's pretending the researchers are pilots
    False.

    Why do you have to lie about what I said?

    Please explain.

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    Authors are Yale researchers...right wingers amirite?
    That was one of the results I got when searching the names. Usually the backgrounds are in the paper or the info page.


    Now why did you lie about what I said?

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    As far as an open journal for prepublication articles with no information on the authors or any peer review goes, sure.


    Maybe they also did a paper on white millennials fleeing the Democratic party.

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    Maybe they also did a paper on white millennials fleeing the Democratic party.
    I believe these are researchers, but I'm always leery of that hasn't gone through the full process yet. Nevertheless we must believe everything Trump says without question or caution. He is infallible.

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    False.

    Why do you have to lie about what I said?

    Please explain.
    I asked you directly if you agreed with the paper I linked to. You pretended it was from a pilot. You're doing the lying as usual.

    Do you think COVID-19 attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism?
    I think I'll read about it from a source that is something other than a pilot and failed cryptocurrency broker.

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    I asked you directly if you agreed with the paper I linked to. You pretended it was from a pilot. You're doing the lying as usual.
    No, you idiot.

    The paper in the OP was by the pilot.

    I asked you about the paper written by the pilot.

    Jesus, quit being ing stupid.

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    And of course now I have to give you the disclaimer AGAIN that I hope any and all of these suggested therapies work, even the one Trump pimps the most for some reason.

    But I will never let you forget that your guy Trump ed this all up from the beginning and is responsible for thousands of unnecessary American deaths.

    None of your deflections or dad jokes will change that.

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    Another strawman article.

    All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.
    THE. MEDIA (NOR FAUCI). NEVER. SAID. HYDROXY. DOESN'T. WORK. JUST. THAT. THERE. IS. NOT. YET. CONCLUSIVE. PROOF. THAT. IT. HAS. EFFICACY.

    Nobody is preventing doctors prescribing it on an individual level as a "let's give it a shot" treatment. "The base" has really blown this up to re ed conspiratorial levels to continue their fake news and the world is against Trump narratives.

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    Another strawman article.



    THE. MEDIA (NOR FAUCI). NEVER. SAID. HYDROXY. DOESN'T. WORK. JUST. THAT. THERE. IS. NOT. YET. CONCLUSIVE. PROOF. THAT. IT. HAS. EFFICACY.

    Nobody is preventing doctors prescribing it on an individual level as a "let's give it a shot" treatment. "The base" has really blown this up to re ed conspiratorial levels to continue their fake news and the world is against Trump narratives.
    So when the media called it snake oil they just meant it hadn't been tested?

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    Any thoughts on the video I posted on p.1?

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    Btw, nothing wrong with SnakeOil

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    So when the media called it snake oil they just meant it hadn't been tested?
    Which "the media" was that?

    An op-ed?

    Let's see the link.

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    No, you idiot.

    The paper in the OP was by the pilot.

    I asked you about the paper written by the pilot.

    Jesus, quit being ing stupid.
    You first post in this thread is quoting my link talking about the author is a pilot. Now you are back peddling because you finally figured out it's different from the op.

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    Dude sounds fairly legit

    The science behind his hypothesis...

    https://ravikollimd.com/resources/CO...abolism_v5.pdf
    Nah.

    They are using modeling software to come to their conclusions.

    We all know modeling software is totally unreliable when it comes to reaching scientific conclusions. You have been saying that for over a decade now.

    Right?

    Or is it "modeling software good now?"

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    You first post in this thread is quoting my link talking about the author is a pilot. Now you are back peddling because you finally figured out it's different from the op.
    No. You didn't say where your quote was from. I was talking about the dude you thought was legit, who is indeed a pilot. I'm sorry you couldn't figure out what I was talking about, now you can backpedal since you now know you didn't link your quote or attribute it to anything.

    Do you understand who is a pilot now?

    Yes or no.

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    They really are, I can’t believe the dumb some people here going with lol. There are tons of therapeutic uses for vents that make statements like “I’ll never go on a vent” ridiculous. But realistically the majority of vents are used on people who are in crisis with very high risk of dying. So most of them die. Addendum: 80% mortality=20% survival. 20% literally snatched from death. I wish it were higher but I won’t poopoo 20% and Im sure those patients (and their families) won’t either.
    MM FTW.

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    As far as an open journal for prepublication articles with no information on the authors or any peer review goes, sure.
    https://chemrxiv.org/

    ChemRxiv: The Preprint Server for Chemistry ChemRxiv

    About
    ChemRxiv (pronounced 'chem-archive') is a free submission, distribution and archive service for unpublished preprints in chemistry and related areas.
    It gives researchers across a broad range of chemistry fields the opportunity to share early results with colleagues and respond to comments and recommendations for improvement, ahead of formal peer review and publication.

    Use ChemRxiv to:

    Gather feedback and context from fellow scientists
    Rapidly disseminate work to a wide audience
    Establish the priority and precedence of a discovery
    Boost the visibility of research findings
    Find potential collaborators and hold interdisciplinary discussions
    Do ent research results for grant reviewers in advance of publication
    Facilitate rapid evaluation of results
    Spot trends and encourage a broad range of constructive feedback
    All of this can improve the reliability of the final research.

    Our preprints come from the author's original files, and are not prepared for publication. ChemRxiv conducts a basic screen for plagiarism, offensive language, and non-scientific content, and will exclude materials that may pose a health or security risk if identified. Beyond this, the files are unedited, and are not peer-reviewed.

    They did some computer modeling, and published some things they THINK MIGHT work.

    Not quite a game changer.

    But hey "modeling software good now" Time to bump my climate change thread with a quote from snakeboy telling me all about the flaws of modeling.

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    So when the media called it snake oil they just meant it hadn't been tested?
    As Chump asked, which Media outlet was that? And if a reporter did indeed call it that, he should be fired.

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    You first post in this thread is quoting my link talking about the author is a pilot. Now you are back peddling because you finally figured out it's different from the op.
    Sorry. "dude is legit". You get to own that. You had a take because someone posted something sciency, whose likely qualifications to evaluate the evidence... is thin.

    Dude sounds fairly legit

    The science behind his hypothesis...

    https://ravikollimd.com/resources/CO...abolism_v5.pdf
    "libertymavenstock" sounds completely legit

    Might even be related to a doctor.
    Do you think COVID-19 attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism?
    I think I'll read about it from a source that is something other than a pilot and failed cryptocurrency broker.

    Or is that the best possible source of information according to you?

    Is it?

    Just say if you think this is the best you can come up with. I'll read it if you say the deleted medium entry from the pilot and failed crypto guy is the best source of information.

    I eagerly await your direct answer.
    The link I provided you is better tbh. I'm sure you'll read about it.
    Oh, the pilot who said whatever isn't the best source?


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