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    I didn't ask whether it was legally provable, I asked you whether you think it's misconduct, even when the victim doesn't say no.

    Catherine Blasey Ford didn't tell anyone and didn't file a complaint, but she got a hearing before a Confressional committee and an FBI investigation, albeit a rushed one.
    And nothing was proved., legally or otherwise. It sucks but that's the way it is.

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    And nothing was proved., legally or otherwise. It sucks but that's the way it is.
    Sexual harrassment/assault is politically survivable. That does suck.

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    Sexual harrassment/assault is politically survivable. That does suck.
    Well for some, it only sucks when the other side gets away with it. When it’s your side, you just find every excuse to bury it.

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    Sexual harrassment/assault is politically survivable. That does suck.
    Especially if it didn't actually happen. Did W sexually assault Merkel with that neckrub?

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    Sure. He can get around that by the ol' I believe she believes that.
    That made me LOL....good job chump!

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    Sexual harrassment/assault is politically survivable. That does suck.
    particularly when the allegation doesn't come out until decade(s) later

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    So you're saying a president must have control of congress even when his party is really not in control? I dont get it..

    You can do something about what you can control ie, to appoint judges and whatnot. As a president, you cant unilaterally make up decisions that make up legislation. You need congress for that.

    Odd post, El. You know damn well.
    But you're readily admitting that the issue here isn't that Joe doesn't have control of Congress, but that even if he did, he would still spend more on the MIC than the poor, he'll still cozy up to Wall Street, etc.

    And frankly, I find disgusting the notion that any given party should control the judiciary, be it through appointments or otherwise. Sure, it happens, it would be naive to say otherwise, but my vote would be on somebody changing the rules of selection so it stops being partisan.

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    It's semantics, sure. But Biden 100% wins if he gets every disgruntled liberal's vote. If enough people in swing states stay home because Biden doesn't meet the liberal-enough litmus, Trump wins.

    It's not a principled stand, it's spoiled. It shows that the non-voter has nothing to lose from another 4 years of Trump and doesn't care about those who do.
    Maybe they feel it's a lose-lose situation. This is where the whole inspiration, excitement, etc comes into play.

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    particularly when the allegation doesn't come out until decade(s) later
    The disparity of treatment compared to Catherine Blasey Ford is striking.

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    The disparity of treatment compared to Catherine Blasey Ford is striking.
    thats true.

    at the time i thought and said the blasey ford thing was actually a massive distraction from kavanaugh's actual disqualifying factors (his inability to be impartial, the lack of financial disclosures due to the rushed nomination process). it was always unlikely that any definitive conclusions would be reached with respect to her allegations. her allegations notwithstanding, i thought his testimony was unhinged as well (calling it revenge from the clintons, etc)

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    I didn't think Ford's charges were going to make any difference either.

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    I didn't think Ford's charges were going to make any difference either.
    Nor did I, and I agree with sr21 that it was a blind alley and that other lines of questioning would have possibly been more fruitful.

    I also think the disparate treatment reveals the hypocrisy of some, maybe a lot of Bidenistas. They don't necessarily believe women when the alleged perp is a (D). Their gaslighting of Tara Reade is more or less dishonorable IMO.

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    The disparity of treatment compared to Catherine Blasey Ford is striking.
    Yes because we saw how he reacted to the accusation.
    I personally have no doubt he is a classic liar.
    Get upset at something other than the real question so he can get emotionally ready for outrage: "Senator, do you drink beer?"
    He is a liar.

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    Yes because we saw how he reacted to the accusation.
    I personally have no doubt he is a classic liar.
    Get upset at something other than the real question so he can get emotionally ready for outrage: "Senator, do you drink beer?"
    He is a liar.
    only got to that point after the accuser testified before congress. we're not seeing anything remotely close to that right now. granted, this isn't a confirmation requiring advice/consent of the senate

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    I didn't think Ford's charges were going to make any difference either.
    Cos you knew they were bull

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    Cos you knew they were bull
    No. They could very well be true. It just doesn't matter.

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    No. They could very well be true. It just doesn't matter.
    Could Tara Reade's accusation very well be true?

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    Cos you knew they were bull
    Derp unfiltered. Watch out sons.

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    Could Tara Reade's accusation very well be true?
    Sure. You voted present so it really doesn't matter to you.

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    Sure. You voted present so it really doesn't matter to you.
    In this recent exchange, or are we hearkening to your past machinations?

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    In this recent exchange, or are we hearkening to your past machinations?
    You have always voted present.

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    You have always voted present.
    Oh, just full-on blanket narrative to comfort yourself.

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    Oh, just full-on blanket narrative to comfort yourself.
    It's your blanket vote.

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    It's your blanket vote.
    Word salad / comforting yourself. Heat's off for now. Good job.

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    Word salad / comforting yourself. Heat's off for now. Good job.
    Thee is no heat. You vote present for everything. You're terrified to express your opinion. Even in your own thread.

    Watch.

    Do you believe Tara Reade was sexually assaulted by Joe Biden as she described?

    Yes or no.

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